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In fact it always did change
You mean that USSR became less dictatorial that's why it collapsed?
@Deleted User both less authoritarian and less communist.
Ok but it is very frustrating to hear that, in what possible scenario does that work
In every scenario there is change.
sure
for better or worse, history is changing
regimes change
So is ideology
I wish
Everything change
Sure
But
What does that support
That doesn't mean everything is possible
You doubt something can change
I oppose it
Nope
I agree
>I genuinely believe that it virtually can't go past authoritarianism
The specific system yeah
It always does. And in fact did
perhaps I should add "and work"
Perhaps
I wish there was an example of classless, stateless, moneyless etc sosciety
But it never goes there
there is if you look far enough back
I think all intellectuals, no matter where they are on the spectrum, the somehow trivialize reality, that it's far more complex and multivariable and dynamic
what marx calls primitive communism iirc
from before slave societies began
but that's not useful though, because it has to sustain all external and internal interference
back then societies were simpler
less connected to the world
it isnt very useful, no
and isolated cases don't count, because I can get 10 ancaps, 10 ancoms and put them in their respective islands and because they'd be firm believers of their ideology, it would work for some time
the point is to work for all people, with different mindsets and endure over time
also your point about trivilizing reality; this has to happen in order to theorize it
I don't think marxist doctrine provides that