Message from @Deleted User

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2017-07-03 23:32:21 UTC  

one reason for the USSR to be authoritarian is that it most likely nothing else was possible. The vast majority of the country was illeterate

2017-07-03 23:32:35 UTC  

In every socialist dicatorship the marxist elite never give up their power

2017-07-03 23:32:42 UTC  

I don't think there is a good arguent for authoritarianism if a revolution were to happen in europe today

2017-07-03 23:33:49 UTC  

scandi -> lessen the power of the elites -> automation -> forever happy

2017-07-03 23:34:05 UTC  

I think a socialist/communist revolution is unnecessary

2017-07-03 23:34:26 UTC  

we must remind outselves that scandi-type social democracy is not socialism

2017-07-03 23:34:33 UTC  

and the transition will have to happen

2017-07-03 23:34:34 UTC  

But that's the inner social democrat talking

2017-07-03 23:35:08 UTC  

maybe you can argue that it is possible to avoid violent revolution, but the vast majority of socialism and history disagrees

2017-07-03 23:35:12 UTC  

It certainly isn't socialisic, perhaps that's the reason it works ;d

2017-07-03 23:35:26 UTC  

it very much is the reason it works today

2017-07-03 23:35:36 UTC  

socialism has no chance of surviving in a sea of capitalist countries

2017-07-03 23:36:17 UTC  

Well, USSR was dismantled because it was not authoritarian and/or communist anymore. So it can

2017-07-03 23:37:02 UTC  

>So it can
Can what?

2017-07-03 23:37:06 UTC  

survive?

2017-07-03 23:37:16 UTC  

can go from authoriatarianism to democracyt

2017-07-03 23:37:17 UTC  

I thin

2017-07-03 23:37:33 UTC  
2017-07-03 23:37:36 UTC  
2017-07-03 23:37:39 UTC  

In fact it always did change

2017-07-03 23:38:10 UTC  

You mean that USSR became less dictatorial that's why it collapsed?

2017-07-03 23:38:42 UTC  

@Deleted User both less authoritarian and less communist.

2017-07-03 23:39:26 UTC  

Ok but it is very frustrating to hear that, in what possible scenario does that work

2017-07-03 23:39:51 UTC  

In every scenario there is change.

2017-07-03 23:39:59 UTC  

sure

2017-07-03 23:40:11 UTC  

for better or worse, history is changing

2017-07-03 23:40:23 UTC  

regimes change

2017-07-03 23:40:23 UTC  

So is ideology

2017-07-03 23:40:44 UTC  

I wish

2017-07-03 23:41:09 UTC  

Everything change

2017-07-03 23:41:15 UTC  

Sure

2017-07-03 23:41:19 UTC  

But

2017-07-03 23:41:26 UTC  

What does that support

2017-07-03 23:41:40 UTC  

That doesn't mean everything is possible

2017-07-03 23:41:50 UTC  

You doubt something can change

2017-07-03 23:41:57 UTC  

I oppose it

2017-07-03 23:42:01 UTC  

Nope

2017-07-03 23:42:35 UTC  

You said that change exists

2017-07-03 23:42:38 UTC  

I agree

2017-07-03 23:42:49 UTC  

>I genuinely believe that it virtually can't go past authoritarianism

2017-07-03 23:43:26 UTC  

The specific system yeah