That doesn't mean everything is possible

You doubt something can change

I oppose it

Nope

You said that change exists

I agree

>I genuinely believe that it virtually can't go past authoritarianism

The specific system yeah

It always does. And in fact did

perhaps I should add "and work"

Perhaps

I wish there was an example of classless, stateless, moneyless etc sosciety

But it never goes there

there is if you look far enough back

I think all intellectuals, no matter where they are on the spectrum, the somehow trivialize reality, that it's far more complex and multivariable and dynamic

what marx calls primitive communism iirc

from before slave societies began

but that's not useful though, because it has to sustain all external and internal interference

back then societies were simpler

less connected to the world

it isnt very useful, no

and isolated cases don't count, because I can get 10 ancaps, 10 ancoms and put them in their respective islands and because they'd be firm believers of their ideology, it would work for some time

the point is to work for all people, with different mindsets and endure over time

also your point about trivilizing reality; this has to happen in order to theorize it

I don't think marxist doctrine provides that

it has to happen, agreed, but why would you accept it?

because I want some way of thinking about reality

no, you misunderstood my point

You do that when the doubt is little, the cost is bearable

you don't go jumping from your balcony on little evidence you could fly

exaggerated example but I hope you understand

you're saying that it trivializes reality so much that it doesn't really apply to reality in any meaningful way?

taht most political theories aren't robust enough so you can BET entire nations and millions of lives because something sounds nice

political change should be very careful, at least now that we can afford it

we can be smart about it

theories aren't something to be tried, they merely attempt to describe reality. You can use these theories to create fx socialism, but marxism is not a set of affairs to be established

why be attached so strongly to a set of rules that was forged century ago

>theories aren't something to be tried, they merely attempt to describe reality.
I'm not against this

then it doesn't make sense to say you can bet nations and lives on a theory

My issue is that clearly marxist mindset isn't enough to describe reality and we have plenty of disciplines to supplement and change it but most people don't want to

sociology, psychology, complex economics, geopolitical dynamics etc