it very much is the reason it works today

socialism has no chance of surviving in a sea of capitalist countries

Well, USSR was dismantled because it was not authoritarian and/or communist anymore. So it can

>So it can
Can what?

survive?

can go from authoriatarianism to democracyt

I thin

@Deleted User change

@Deleted User change

In fact it always did change

You mean that USSR became less dictatorial that's why it collapsed?

@Deleted User both less authoritarian and less communist.

Ok but it is very frustrating to hear that, in what possible scenario does that work

In every scenario there is change.

sure

for better or worse, history is changing

regimes change

So is ideology

I wish

Everything change

Sure

But

What does that support

That doesn't mean everything is possible

You doubt something can change

I oppose it

Nope

You said that change exists

I agree

>I genuinely believe that it virtually can't go past authoritarianism

The specific system yeah

It always does. And in fact did

perhaps I should add "and work"

Perhaps

I wish there was an example of classless, stateless, moneyless etc sosciety

But it never goes there

there is if you look far enough back

I think all intellectuals, no matter where they are on the spectrum, the somehow trivialize reality, that it's far more complex and multivariable and dynamic

what marx calls primitive communism iirc

from before slave societies began

but that's not useful though, because it has to sustain all external and internal interference