Message from @olev
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denied the freedom to trade my own capital
for someone else's labour
@Firefly#9983 What do you mean without ownership?
@olev If individual does not own things to trade who is going to trade on the market?
The workers own it
Who?
Which?
The workers
the people that work there
Do they have a share of business?
I'm not really sure how wages are supposed to work
How do they trade?
You buy stuff?
Who if you don't own it?
Buying stuff without owning it?
You buy products/services from businesses
with money
Who decides what business trade?
Again I've already said that the workers as a whole democratically decide/manage
So the specialists and managers has no say in it?
I don't have all the answers, I'm not a market socialist
Who is going to manage than?
The workers
i've said this like 10 times
Are they trained for that?
I mean I don't know if they'd be trained by the business after getting hired or what
Well, good manager needs 10+ years of experience
Maybe business can't train all?
Yeah that's a potential problem
Is an existing problem.
Is not potential.
Ask a market socialist I guess
I might be able to answer, what is the question?
wouldn't really indentify as a marksoc but I'll try
Well, basically the problem is that managers specialize in their position
but if it's owned and managed by the workers, wouldn't them not having experience be a problem
it doesn't have to be managed by the workers
a democratic country isn't managed by the citizens
the citizens have control to elect their "managers" (politicians)
Works well every time.