No problem!

Aye and ice and elevation can't hurt either

@Deleted User Thank you too

All of the above is great

@everyone who will be going to an event any time soon? I'm going to be making small kits for the medics in the crowd, and an ambulance bag for the triage point/medic truck. For the higher ups, I think this would be the best way to coordinate the medic teams. C-ville was kind of a cluster-f for us, and I think we should focus on getting structured. This includes comms, universal kit setups, a point that all elements (security, etc.) Know where to take someone for medical care.

Great idea, Joe. I know we'd be interested in those kits.

We're working on some better concoctions to deal with injuries from bear mace, acid, and bleach.

Our own ambulance service would be a good idea too, with a truck/van waiting to medevac someone to the nearest hospital.

Would save our guys a good bit of cash too

From a logistics perspective if doing a big event like cville I agree Wiley.

@Erika can you have someone post your mace remedy in the medic lessons thread?

@Deleted User I'll write it up tonight and send it to whoever has the ability to post in that channel.

I need that dmed to me also if you can thanks! @Erika

@Louis Loire - NY absolutely!

I'm trying to find a cheap small bag guys can buy without sweating it. Any ideas on what we need in them? So far:
2x large gauze
1x tourniquet
1x bottle of saline
1x bottle of pepper spray remedy
5x 4x4 gauze
1x coban
1x tape
1x medical sheers
2x Cold packs
Bandaids
Sanitizer wipes
Alcohol preps
Anything else you guys can think of for first responders in the crowd?

I can tell you one thing, with the amount of pepper spray I had to treat at Cville, a lot of gauze is needed. I was using so much and I didn't even treat any bloody wounds.

ab pads or 5x9s work well for wiping off the solution and having a soaked pad to leave the patient

^ absolutely
4x4s and cut strips of 4" gauze rolls also worked well for me

Any doctors, PA's, RN's, or radiology professionals who would know enough about my calcaneus x-ray to tell me what it looks like to them?

@here ☝🏻

I'm horrified at what my surgeon told me today >.<

The surgeon will know more than me and most here so id recommend listening to your team

Oh I am for sure, he just made it sound like I'm doomed if I don't do this or this or this, etc

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL what did he say? If you're comfortable sharing.

He might be saying avoiding surgery will lead to futher complications and permanent injury

I'd do the surgery avoid future pain

basically that.

Yeah I'd do the surgery its not worth trying to avoid it esp if the bone damage is bad

my calcaneus is broken all the way through, that much is really obvious from the x-rays. and since my ER visit, it's spreading further apart due to achilles tendon pulling on it. so now there's a sharp edge from the fracture poking up into the ankle joint, which will cause traumatic arthritis if I don't get surgery, he said

I cracked my hip when I was 18 and didn't get the recommended surgery wish I did thing still hurts sometimes

Yeah get the surgery that injury sounds like it will only get worse

Not something to fuck with

my foot is super swollen right now, with some pitting edema...so he can't do the surgery for a few weeks until that goes away

Untill then obey all directions given

so ya basically, I'm confined to my bed with my foot elevated above my heart. and bored watching movies lol

If you're gonna be in the rwds, you have to be able to use your feet😂

I guess my concern outright is that since it's worker's comp, I've been told sometimes doctors dealing with worker's comp cases basically just do what the worker's comp ins people tell them to do b/c it's such a pain in the ass for them to fight for what SHOULD be done

Have any of you looked into using x-rays for wound treatment

It would be very valuable in a situation where antibiotics were difficult to obtain

I would think that if antibiotics were difficult to obtain, x-rays would be even moreso.

No all u need is a battery