I can tell you one thing, with the amount of pepper spray I had to treat at Cville, a lot of gauze is needed. I was using so much and I didn't even treat any bloody wounds.

ab pads or 5x9s work well for wiping off the solution and having a soaked pad to leave the patient

^ absolutely
4x4s and cut strips of 4" gauze rolls also worked well for me

Any doctors, PA's, RN's, or radiology professionals who would know enough about my calcaneus x-ray to tell me what it looks like to them?

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I'm horrified at what my surgeon told me today >.<

The surgeon will know more than me and most here so id recommend listening to your team

Oh I am for sure, he just made it sound like I'm doomed if I don't do this or this or this, etc

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL what did he say? If you're comfortable sharing.

He might be saying avoiding surgery will lead to futher complications and permanent injury

I'd do the surgery avoid future pain

basically that.

Yeah I'd do the surgery its not worth trying to avoid it esp if the bone damage is bad

my calcaneus is broken all the way through, that much is really obvious from the x-rays. and since my ER visit, it's spreading further apart due to achilles tendon pulling on it. so now there's a sharp edge from the fracture poking up into the ankle joint, which will cause traumatic arthritis if I don't get surgery, he said

I cracked my hip when I was 18 and didn't get the recommended surgery wish I did thing still hurts sometimes

Yeah get the surgery that injury sounds like it will only get worse

Not something to fuck with

my foot is super swollen right now, with some pitting edema...so he can't do the surgery for a few weeks until that goes away

Untill then obey all directions given

so ya basically, I'm confined to my bed with my foot elevated above my heart. and bored watching movies lol

If you're gonna be in the rwds, you have to be able to use your feet😂

I guess my concern outright is that since it's worker's comp, I've been told sometimes doctors dealing with worker's comp cases basically just do what the worker's comp ins people tell them to do b/c it's such a pain in the ass for them to fight for what SHOULD be done

Have any of you looked into using x-rays for wound treatment

It would be very valuable in a situation where antibiotics were difficult to obtain

I would think that if antibiotics were difficult to obtain, x-rays would be even moreso.

No all u need is a battery

A small solar panel could obtain charge for a dozen or more treatments a day and a battery could hold hundreds

Small x Ray generators exist about the size of a large smartphone

You only need 50kV or less for surface treatments

@Deleted User , Spencer & co will be at the University of Florida on September 12.

@Deleted User looking forward to seeing y'all again! I'll be there, and I'm assembling a Florida EMS squad. Hopefully less pepper spray and more cops doing their job this time

Really looking forward to medical lessons. I'm sure IE has at least a couple nurses, or perhaps a doctor to teach us

I'm typing up the how to deal with defensive sprays guide right now. Hopefully I'll have it done tonight. The most common medical issue we seemingly have to deal with at events right now is getting pepper sprayed, so really, everyone should be prepared to know how to deal with it

Here's a lesson, if you're ever feeling soft on the euthanasia question, do a ride along on an ambulance. It's been a rough night.

Ugh. Sorry brother

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Here's my "how to" guide of how to manage a patient who has been pepper sprayed, tear gassed, or sprayed with household cleaning products.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LrOU069vMZX6-8VVBrmc11op0cTO45cfKOt3_oGIDqc
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May someone repost that in PDF format

Google docs tracks you

@Erika Thank you for this very good information

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