And especially in the past 2.

@Ben Rainsford - OH I think the racial aspect is really critical. Until they understand the importance of race, they can pretty easily rationalize anything else

That's going to be hard. He's one of those civ nat types who loved Trump, but only after Ben Carson dropped out of the race.

Some people are just suckers in all honesty

@Ben Rainsford - OH I was a CivNat Trump supporter...don't count them out. (I was a Rand guy though...not Carson)

I don’t waste my time with them

The reason it bothers so much is because during the election he felt like the one guy who would openly support Trump with me. We went to rallies together, did the whole bit.

it was civnat 'Murica....not racial for him obviously

once someone realizes we are tribal people (esp non whites), it all makes sense

its getting them there that is like pulling teeth (or just downright losing them)

Civnat is a good start. The question is whether he is even civnat

A civnat can be pro white

So that’s something

yeah, i'm sure i'm not the only (racially aware) civnat turned Identitarian

I think probably most people kind of go through that process. I liked Thomas Sowell for a while lmao

Rest In Peace JM.

Eventually i realized that Sowell was not honest about race, endorsed race mixing, and cared more about free markets than i ever could

I liked how Ben Carson drove the libs nuts

Our greatest war vet in our countries history.

Of course not as much as Trump, but at the beginning I didn't know much about him

I had been red pilled for a couple years pre-Trump so idk who i wouldve liked if i hadnt been

Maybe Rand Paul

Rand was the only choice before I jumped aboard the Trump train.

I'm not sure who I would have voted for if Trump hadn't ran. If I did vote in the election at all, it would have been to "vote against" Hillary

I liked Cruz before Trump entered the picture

idk I had been so dissillusioned with politics since the Republican party squashed Rick Santorum and Ron Paul in 2012 that my only political position was to troll the libs

John McCain was as anti-White and anti-American as the most far left radical Democrat. He was the epitome of a neocon and a warmonger.

i'm sure many people voted against Hillary, not "for" Trump....but I'll take it.

And i really liked Rick Santorum but I knew he had zero chance of winning

Just remember: thousands of people voted for a dead gorilla and Paris Hilton, so you weren't alone... @ThisIsChris 😆

@Asatru Artist - MD True, a lukewarm vote counts as much as an enthusiastic vote

I basically gas lighted and bombarded my roommate with every negative thing I could find about Hilldawg. He didn't vote Trump, but he did vote write in. A plus was enough of what I said got to his gf and she voted for Jill Stein instead of Hilary

Yeah ill keep my thoughts to myself re McCain

@Ben Rainsford - OH Nice man

That counts a lot in a state like OH

@Ben Rainsford - OH I'm surprised our friendship survived it tbh. It just goes to show how constant exposure can impact someone's choices. I had him trapped in a room with me all sophomore year. Makes it easier to understand why more white people aren't awakened on certain things, given what they've been told their entire lives

A young fellow worked with me briefly this past January. He found out I voted for Trump, and was like, "What?!? I voted for Hillary. It would've been so awesome...first woman President! AMAZING! THE FIRST...so I voted for her."

I just said to him, "That's the worst reason to vote for anyone, for any office, no matter what they're running for or what you think about their opponent. 'First _anything_.' Would you vote for "The FIRST Down's Syndrome Presidential Candidate?"

May as well be saying: I don't care if they'd be good for the job. I just want to be hip with my vote.

You make a great case for democracy, @Phillip Wiglesworth - FL

lol

I would have voted for the Downs Syndrome candidate over Hillary.