Message from @Sam Anderson
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We're still Fledgling and we have baggage. Pair that with a rather obscure academic concept and it loses interest
I agree that our message and methods aren't specifically pro-Trumpians... but we never even tried to target them, either.
Our demographic are the Whites who can help fight for our future, not saturday night beer drinkers while they watch football
Do we have any musicians in IE? I have an idea to suggest if so.
@Kingfish no offense of course
those are literally the same people
Tucker Carlson is great. He has a different target audience, though. His whole routine is about appealing to boomers and nudging them towards us.
I do support co-opting civic nationalism, but we need to have groups ready for people who've decided they want to go beyond that.
What James Allsup does is really great with his appeal to American nationalism, but we need variety. We can't have *just* James Allsups. We need Jared Taylors, we need Red Ices, etc. We need to have a whole system going Diversity of skills and methods is our strength.
@John Riggs Is it Identitarian boy bands?
@Virgil The Greeks actually did give up Ionia and agreed to population transfers. As for Spain, it took centuries of war to expel the Moors, and they were primarily just a ruling elite that was small in number.
I'm increasingly of the opinion that America is headed towards civil war, but I sure am not looking forward to it or advocating it. At the end of the day, those aren't good optics comparisons
Check this shit out. Boomers lol.
rise and shine evro-peans
I tried to get a couple of our AZ guys to do that. We failed to get it off the ground
what are you doing for your people today
The late stage Roman Republic is full of good anecdotes to compare the two.
Apparently drugs make you more xenophilic.
So smoking dope WILL make you a dirty hippie. Red Foreman did nothing wrong.
Lol
I forget who said it, but essentially the logic was, becoming explicitly right wing and doing explicitly right wing policies and stances like immigration and cultural conservatism will *implicitly* push our Identitarian interests forward.
Apparently, those who are heavily drugged by opiods are generally more accepting towards an outgroup. Opiod crisis anyone?
Might have been alt hype
@John Riggs you called?
Not exactly. More of a folk song. But there's a great Swedish identitarian song that I think could be easily translated into English and recorded. This translation is not perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD0M3IAfDE4
@Sam Anderson Fair enough. However, I would argue that opiods cause similar effects.
Soma takes many forms
@TMatthews That's not quite what I was getting at. The point was that if the Greeks and the Spanish had given their nations up and accepted multiculturalism as integral parts of those nations, they wouldn't exist today.
I do think presenting ourselves as part of the broader right-wing coalition is a good thing, but I would hesitate to take stances on issues that don't pertain directly to demographics or identity
Well, I can't sing. Sorry
@TMatthews Minimal consensus ftw
Doing that would be nice, but even when Laura Ingrham talks about demographics she is immediately berated as a White Nationalist soo
@Virgil While that is true, Reconquista America is questionable optics, imo
And then the left is hated more and more as agitators and their words of derision lose Merit.
This goes back to the whole "they are gonna call you a Nazi anyways". Now that does not mean break out the armbands. But just let their accusation fall flat.
Yeah we can combine the unapologetic attitude with a more America first directed rhetoric
refuse to accept the framing, be offensive not defensive
Because frankly we're trying to normalize a concept more radical than simply America first, when America first hasn't even been Normalized
Implicitly pushing stuff works best when there's something to be pushed towards. Setting up front groups could be a good idea. Literal communists do it all the time, and they're doing great in the culture war.
Our name and logo are not gone in the slightest, in my opinion
Smaller front groups would be great, thought of that earlier
@Jacob When we have tons of Jewish money to waste on expendable people let me know
The key for me is to simply focus on saying "the left is anti-white" and "nonwhites will always practice identity politics"
Once the normie accepts those, you can make the case for why white identity politics is inevitable and necessary