Message from @Sam Anderson
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Might have been alt hype
@Rabbidsith Oxytocin is different than Opioids.
@John Riggs you called?
Not exactly. More of a folk song. But there's a great Swedish identitarian song that I think could be easily translated into English and recorded. This translation is not perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD0M3IAfDE4
@Sam Anderson Fair enough. However, I would argue that opiods cause similar effects.
Soma takes many forms
@TMatthews That's not quite what I was getting at. The point was that if the Greeks and the Spanish had given their nations up and accepted multiculturalism as integral parts of those nations, they wouldn't exist today.
I do think presenting ourselves as part of the broader right-wing coalition is a good thing, but I would hesitate to take stances on issues that don't pertain directly to demographics or identity
Well, I can't sing. Sorry
@TMatthews Minimal consensus ftw
Doing that would be nice, but even when Laura Ingrham talks about demographics she is immediately berated as a White Nationalist soo
@Virgil While that is true, Reconquista America is questionable optics, imo
And then the left is hated more and more as agitators and their words of derision lose Merit.
This goes back to the whole "they are gonna call you a Nazi anyways". Now that does not mean break out the armbands. But just let their accusation fall flat.
Yeah we can combine the unapologetic attitude with a more America first directed rhetoric
refuse to accept the framing, be offensive not defensive
Because frankly we're trying to normalize a concept more radical than simply America first, when America first hasn't even been Normalized
Implicitly pushing stuff works best when there's something to be pushed towards. Setting up front groups could be a good idea. Literal communists do it all the time, and they're doing great in the culture war.
Our name and logo are not gone in the slightest, in my opinion
Smaller front groups would be great, thought of that earlier
The key for me is to simply focus on saying "the left is anti-white" and "nonwhites will always practice identity politics"
Once the normie accepts those, you can make the case for why white identity politics is inevitable and necessary
@Jacob this is what I mean. We make far more progress entering already established groups or groups with different ideas and shifting them to us. We need to direct already established infrastructure and influence not try to start with nothing I agree with you 100% this is why every member should be in every political group or cultural group they can be in.
<:chad:359013583469805568> Chad dad Allsup firin' another shot across Lil' Ben's bow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXfnAMMpW_o?vq=hd1080
@Sam Anderson Ever heard of thing thing called a "bizness" - I think that's how you spell it, pretty new concept.
@Deleted User Late to the party perhaps, but I endorse a rebranding for all of the reasons you listed. But also, as we've both been in here for quite some time, I think we can agree that this isn't the same org that it was at the beginning. The political environment is different from then and the level of professionalism that we show is much greater. We have jettisoned everything else that didn't\stopped working, I feel as if we should move into the future with an identity that matches the times and where we want to be.
Let me check what my major is again hol up
I've been a college republican for 4 weeks and have already rubbed elbows with notable people who agree with us to a degree as well as individuals who could be convinced with the right rhetoric.
@Sam Anderson You don't need a billion dollars to subvert a College Republicans chapter
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It's way easier than I expected tbh
Don't think of it as subverting. We are a growing faction within the Republican Party. We belong there, and our ideas are slowly getting more and more mainstream
Changing the Republican party from the inside is our best bet of getting White identity politics into the WH
@Goldstein Riots Tom is right. Too many people in here want to be ideologues, rather than win. We need to be pragmatic, realistic and forward looking - obviously we can't abandon our core values, ever, either - but appealing to powerful factions is the way forward.
Ideologues never win.
@TMatthews our ideas are mainstream, but most white people know they will get fired and ostracized for them.
It will be way easier to become a respected and powerful faction of the party using America first rhetoric than obscure meta political concepts
@Kingfish Are you saying reading Neitszche obsessively is not gonna win?
The GOP didn't really oppose affirmative action until after Duke nearly won the Louisiana senate seat and they co-opted that idea. Not a fan of his really, but the party can be made to change to suit its base
@Sam Anderson will to power bro!
IN A SENSE EHE
Civnats for instance, they get alot of hate but they are halfway there and LITERALLY WANT TO CONSTRUCT A 30 FOOT WALL ON THE MEXICAN BORDER AND PHYSICALLY ROUND UP AND DEPORT 12 MILLION MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
Like come on, that's a pretty good starting point.