https://jacobitemag.com/2018/10/02/empty-realm/

@Jacob yeah and it could possibly catch on but I'm not really counting on it. The ideology is sound but I feel like the term just doesnt have much power especially in America

I think I pretty much agree with that

@Matthias I zoned out when the author got to Frankfurt school apologia. I know it is important to read the enemy's internal discussions but the Talmudry is so contorted.

Lord, make me an instrument of your will. Where there is injustice against my people may I bring right. Where there is error may I bring truth. Where my people despair may I bring hope. Grant that I may comfort my people rather than to be comforted - to serve them rather than to be served. For it is by putting the needs of my people before my own that I may best serve to secure the existence of my race and a future for White children. Good night, and peace be with you.

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At a certain point we need a name and to stick with it. Taking on "baggage" is just a function of its use in the passage of time

Anyone who listens to us for five minutes knows we're White Nationalists

Better to be who we are than scurry around looking for strange new words to euphemize it as if we're ashamed

@Singleton Mosby WV Not religious at all but that is easily something I could see myself saying in dark times

>Americans want to hear about safety, money, borders, etc. The root ideology can be identitarianism, but frankly I don't think it's what middle American average Joe types want to hear or will feel connection with.

That's probably true, but there's already a Trump movement addressing those issues. We can touch on them as well, but if we abandon our niche we'll become an ineffective version of the Proud Boys.

I really don't think there's an effective youth movement for the populist trump types. There's not a positive org for Anne Coulter and Tucker Carlson types. They all ended up in negative spaces like TPUSA. Tapping into that energy would yield us a larger membership and influence base especially if we're able to get on Tucker and what not regularly representing the youth aspect of the movement

Then we'd have to explain why we only allow Whites into the organization.

And if we opened the organization up to non-Whites, we'd lose most if not all of our current membership, and probably find ourselves with a dumber and less dedicated organization.

Never said open up to non whites

Bring conservatives to us not us to them

Use rhetoric and policies that will make non whites disinterested without being explicity white only

Or just flat out don't address it

That's ridiculous dude

I actually agree that we should tap into them

We should create front groups to do not

Well, given this organization's founding it's a bit late to try to trick people into believing we're something we aren't.

"boy I love milk, farmers markets, and craft beer" <-- this should dissuade nonwhites from coming

We should never dilute the real group

Goodnight ladies and gents.👏

Goodnight @hbutzer0511

We could do our explicit rheotric and slogans through college rep groups and other trump style groups

This sounds like 4D chess to break away from the stigma that comes from speaking sincerely about race and identity -- that's really not going to happen at this point, again, given the organization's history.

But just explicitly being an effectively revolutionary right group with an extremely obscure metapolitcial lexicon I just frankly don't see as getting incredibly far

Our purpose isn't just to network -- it's to send a message. If we're not speaking honestly about these issues, who will?

Sorry to hear you don't believe we'll succeed @Kingfish

I hope we prove you wrong.

Isn't membership growing?

If you're not explicit on race what is even the purpose of any of this

There's something to be said for avoiding fringe issues, using more American/Trumpian aesthetics, etc. -- but we're already doing that. As to the term identitarian -- I think it's good, but I'm not opposed to nationalist either.

The left long marched into our institutions and effectively took over our country while being completely disingenuous with the people. They preached love and peace and laughed all the way to the bank with a Marxist/leftist root only seen by the top echelon