@Sam Southern - TN @Deleted User @YourFundamentalTheorum Just to put a finer point on what we talking about before (right hand/left hand), though, I kind of regret framing it the way I did, because I think that most people need a right-hand path, and a lot of our people's suffering comes from the lack thereof, or at least one that doesn't require you to hold your nose in one manner or another, and I obviously didn't mean it in such a way that right hand = Christianity, left hand = Paganism, but rather, orthodoxy (with a lower-case "o") vs. gnosticism, irrespective of the particular faith.

@Deleted User this ain’t it, chief

Now, If trump really said he was a White Nationalist, All hell would have broken loose

@Deleted User agreed

@Deleted User No it isn't, American should be a European ethnicity like being German, Italian or Polish.

“European roots, American greatness”

@Alex Kolchak - NY Exactly

OHHH. Okay

Got confused for a second as to what you meant.

@Virgil I agree with your point on ethnicity. There's a strong case to be made for the idea that, over the past 410 years, we've undergone an ethnogenesis all our own.

it’s like the Boers. European roots, yes, but they have their distinct regional identity and that’s OK too

@Virgil you know that meme of people from each European country that basically says “we have enough diversity”? We could do one of different parts of America

New England, the South, the Midwest, the PNW, etc

@Alex Kolchak - NY That could have potential, you could also do it by state as well

true, the only thing is 50 photos would be a lot on one poster

@Alex Kolchak - NY
I mean... the reason is because of the different European groups in America. Being American as an ethnicity would be like the French comparing themselves to Swedish and saying "we're all European. It doesn't matter"

@Alex Kolchak - NY I would probably counter-signal the Boers a little bit, though, just because I'm not willing to poo-poo, or distance myself from the word European. I mean, I understand why they would do so now, because they need to maintain the line that they're indigenous in order just to have rights, but they've been doing that number for 200 years. Yeah, I'm American, but I'm ALSO European.

^I don’t disagree, the two can both be just as salient

Agreed

I just mean, like.. America is a European country, yes, and all Europeans should unite. But we are definitely different breeds still.

As I see it, Americans are an inherently European ethnos, just like Germanics, Slavs, Latins, etc. We're just distinct in that our genesis took place in the New World.

@Deleted User Yeah, I agree.

@Bjorn - MD that would be true if we all mixed the same. But we didn't. Some are mainly southern European and others are mainly northern European etc etc. We dont really have the same genesis

Germans are only German for the most part. Swedes are mainly swedes. But America is all of Europe in one.

We are basically the 2nd European continent lol

of course, it’s important to remember that our opponents will not be that nuanced

@Alex Kolchak - NY true

@Deleted User Grannted, but I there's often significant, *gasp*, diversity within an ethnos, and our identity is obviously still forming, too.

I mean, yeah.

@Bjorn - MD I think that if we have an American ethnos, than American nationalism and Identitarianism would be a far easier sell to the general population

I see your point^

we have to break the anti-white/anti-American conditioning before we can really promote European roots

although promoting European roots may help with that

I think the left is doing our job for us... LOL. It's backfiring big time what they are doing.

oh no question. Their strategy would work if their masses had the same intelligence and impulse control that their elites do, but that’s obviously not the case

so their supporters force them into more and more blatant anti-whiteness

The left keeps putting whites in a group and hating people of European descent. It is backfiring. They are selling European identity without knowing it.

@Deleted User I love it. Our enemies are doing everything that we would want them to. They are pushing people right into our hands.

Pretty much

The left: "We love diversity but the less whites there is, the better. We accept, love and include all people, except whites. Loving your identity, heritage and culture is wonderful.. unless you're white"

I don't get it..
Diversity in their eyes is everyone being brown or black
.. as if having a monoculture = diversity

Just told my dad about IE and he seemed pretty hesitant but ok with it, he still hates republicans because they don't care about the middle class etc. But he does realize some, at least basic talking points, ie police brutality against blacks is blown out, don't separate families at the border send them all back, why is black pride ok but not white pride and a few others