Especially if it was cold.

yeah unless you look like a classical statue

Lol there’s no real hazing, just vetting. Consider the pledge phase as another stage of it

Activism in the nude lmao

I assumed there wasn’t any hazing, as there’s no central IE location, for one.

well...

we're working on getting an HQ

not for the purposes of hazing though

That would be fantastic

Hazing question, the answer is yes

There something you want to admit guy

I’m a sub-contractor, so let me know if I could help in building/constructing it

What is a sub-contractor vs a normal contractor?

@JohnAtlas

Contractors hire subcontractors to do their work

I mostly do home-remodeling.

@JohnAtlas that's a good skill to have

So, like you do the actual manual stuff and they just dish out the duties to you?

Correct

Like they kind of oversee it so to speak

Right. They take a big cut to just walk around

I usually do non-contracted work, though. So I haven’t worked for many contractors.

Interesting, I've always wanted to learn how to build things

@Trashboat are you on the skills server?

Yea

I don't have the stuff or space to learn tho

that's rough. yeah growing up we used to build in my dad's garage. nothing complex though, very basic things

earlier this year we built a deer feeder

lots of deer around his house

Lots of deer around the countryside in general

Yeah that’s how I started too, my dad taught me everything.

Feelsbad grew up a sheltered suburban kid

But also an opportunity to learn these things myself

Outdoorsmanship

mechanics

etc

How is it even remotely hateful?

We just want to exist

That's why.

If only you knew how bad it is