Flying back to CA, later Evropa

see what as a duty?

Procreation.

and ya that anime is pretty great lol

I think if people want to procreate that's ok, and if not that's ok too. I've met too many people who won't or likely won't procreate and I don't think they've failed us somehow.

Some of these people are even fully on board our ideas.

Well certainly, that's fine, they may do what they wish.

That's a good point. Having kids isn't right for some people.

Just, life was different for them.

But for us who have an instinct for children and CAN have children, I do believe it is our duty, and I'd be remiss not to capitalize on my instincts.

When I was younger I assumed almost everyone got married, or they were going to be a priest or nun.

Now that I'm older, I see a lot of people aren't married and not really close to it.

a) is that a normal thing b) what percentage of people do you think shouldn't/aren't fit for marriage?

Depends

If I go to Walmart that number goes up to like 95%

I agree that some people aren't made for marital life, but saying that not being married is ok to the populace is dangerous too

@YourFundamentalTheorum more normal than I expected. Less normal than it could be I guess. But still way more normal than I expected

It’s a biological imperative to procreate. Denying your biological imperative will have consequences. If that’s a choice you want to make so be it. Short of health complications obviously

@ThisIsChris right, but just because many people don't get married it does not mean it's good.

Here in the US I have no close friends who are married. Of my slightly larger circle of sorta friends there is one couple that is married

Yes, the world would be a much better place if Ann Coulter had 10 children.

*Anne

Saying everyone should have kids is unhealthy

Sometimes it's better for those uh, biological imperatives were ignored for some people.

Among my wife's friends though they are all married at this point, most with kids.

Nah it’s Ann

I thought it was Anna

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I personally believe that those who should have kids should have twice as many as they've been having, and those who shouldn't should have none

If you are attractive, and/or intelligent, and are aware of our demographics, you should PROBABLY make some babies.

Ya I would agree with that

Standards lowered I see

Dysgenics is definitely an issue

I know very intelligent blacks with no kids

@YourFundamentalTheorum "doesn't mean it's good" yeah maybe I'm not sure. I think life is complex and doesn't always fit too neatly into our ideals. Of course I think for some people it is just psycho-cultural burdens that block them from getting married but those are very real to them and as people get older they get more ingrained in their habita

And high IQ people can be quite neurotic.

It's a shame, really.

I'm sure there were kings who did not want to have children, but did it anyway to prolong their bloodline. It's just better for some people to have kids, but of course it's not going to be for everyone.

@ThisIsChris I agree that many people are indeed not fit or incapable for various reasons for procreation. However, if you can have kids and have suitable economic and family conditions, but you don't, at least in my church it's a sin. And I think most people here would agree that it's not ideal either.

tl;dr not having kids because of selfishness is usually bad

Let us remember the Americans whose lives were squandered in foreign conflicts.