Message from @Isabella Locke-MT
Discord ID: 519683073651245057
“Its eVropa!!!” With a HARD V!!
“Gay ass liberal hippies!!”
🤦🏻♀️^
Btw what’s with the v anyway
Is that just for fanciness
Or does it actually mean something
Mr Damigo loved the classic font I suppose
So fanciness
Okay bad Sam back to bugman work!
Lol later
Yeah. Identity Bovginess
Bvgman, issue #356, Will Bvgman Leave the Basement
Aw that’s cute
Omg
Thank you @Asatru Artist - MD
I was red-pulling a relative today: he was fairly receptive. Of course I had to measure my words carefully and I had to be careful not to use the word “white” anywhere:
"It's true that this country was a country of immigrants"
let me stop you right there
"This country was built by European immigrants"
again, no.
it's better to agree and amplify, focus on the demographics imo
"Who were these immigrants? Let's take a look at the laws"
It's important to be accurate about what we were. Conquerors and pioneers that created a nation. Not immigrants.
What about the Irish who built the railroads and such?
I would classify them as immigrants
I'm not Irish lol, but yes the Irish were immigrants.
Anyone after laws were established are immigrants.
@Sam Southern - TN I know you have a very black-and-white view on this topic and you and I disagree on this. There were indeed European immigrants.
Europeans that came in the 20s and 30s and 40s did not come on the mayflower
The country wasn't built by immigrants. That's just not accurate
@Sam Southern - TN alright Sam.
both white immigrants and white pioneers
Immigrants did strengthen this country. To a certain point.
Sometimes you have to go easy with people and you have to build on what they already believe and we were not talking about the settlers and the frontiers. We were talking about his grandparents and great grandparents who came to this country
oh okay
^ yes. I said to a certain point. I meant long before we accepted others.
The question is fundamentally to what extent do we credit the settling generations with "building" the country. Obviously, settlers and pioneers claimed the entire continent and the original, largely Anglo, core of the country founded the US. Yet, one could definitely argue that the later waves of European arrivals continued to "build" the country. That's not to say the founding generations were somehow lacking. This is only a result of the timing of the industrial revolution to a degree.
My great grandparents were “immigrants”. There is an issue of nomenclature around the term “immigrants”.
Yes @Lily Lee - NJ