Message from @reactionarytree
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@reactionarytree That's a great point. Even from a self interest perspective it's probably a bad idea to support Ukrainian "nationalists".
with gene editing,who really knows where they can go? that's a fair point for someone tomake
but they can be a thorn in our side if we let them
I'd rather not let them
China is going to eat us for breakfast if they become the dominant power in Africa and increase their presence in South America and elsewhere
I'm for isolationism whenever possible, but you have to consider the alternative
grim outlook but entirely possible
China is going to turn us all gay.
tbh I don't agree.. I really don't think that China will be able to dominate us. they have a decent urban class that rigs their IQ scores, but most of their population is still rural retards.
they will forever be missing the spark that made Europeans what we are.
Best option at this point is for Ukraine to get rid of Poroshenko, have a Russia friendly government installed, and give Azov guys monkey trials
@Sam Southern - TN but consider that the British Empire sent many if its less-desirable citizens to colonize the world, and that worked quite well for them. China does the same thing
well the share of bright Americans is decreasing slowly but surely over time
Guys, is Jonah Hill actually a groyper IRL?
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*ahem* we're effortposting here @Papa Pizzagate
I don't mind having Russia as an ally, but giving Ukraine to them is entirely antithetical to our core ideology and beliefs. Russia is in a similar demographic boat to us and culturally, degeneracy is a real issue there, abortions, drug use and alcoholism are severe issue there that the Kremlin has done very little about.
I wouldn't have a problem with genuine nationalism from Ukraine
Just showed my red pilled friend Red Ice. He loves it!
@Alex Kolchak - NY yes, the British (English) were a superior people to the ones they conquered. I don't see the Chinese as a superior people to the areas that we need to keep (Europe, South Africa, most of South America, Australia, America and Canada. do you?
Ultimately I'm an American Nationalist and am generally dismissive of third world countries, but I can't trust a country like Russia which in order to one up America supports a trashy communist regime like Venezuela which has wrecked their economy, anointed a literal bus driver president, and starves their own people whilst simultaneously blaming America for all of this instead of themselves, and as my avatar implies I am fairly Machiavellian. Don't trust Putin.
for that to happen, loonies like Azov need to be destroyed
China is a paper tiger.
I'll be inviting him into I.E hopefully soon, after he watches farmlands and some more stuff
But so is America
LMAO we're screwed
@Papa Pizzagate you gotta meet my gf sometime, she studies China and she will scare the daylights out of you
UUUhhh dont you mean paper Dragon 😃
from an isolationist pov, theres no reason for the USA to intervene in Ukraine
there's no reason for us to support russia from an isolationist perspective either
@Alex Kolchak - NY She's that ugly, huh? Okay...
Dunk
just like there was no reason for USA to go into Yugoslavia or Kosovo or Iraq or Libya
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or Syria
Azov feeds into the larger narrative of "all nationalists are retarded spergs who throw up romans". We benefit from them failing at all that they do.
America doesn't benefit one way or the other afaik
Without US backing, there is no real Ukrainian nationalist movement and whatever does exist is not strong enough to stop Russia
I want us to withdraw from international politics altogether personally. There's no quicker way to make European nationalism a reality than withdrawing our military protection and support
no but seriously, China benefits from being able to take a 100-year perspective on its future, rather than 4-8 years at a time like we do