Message from @Kanobiobiwan

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2020-12-08 05:55:15 UTC  

In my view, if you don't trust your church with your tithe, you should go to another church. It's likely a church like that also has theological problems.

For me, I always tithe at my church but I know many of the organizations around town and in the region the money goes to and the church every year publishes percent wise where all the money went.

2020-12-08 06:10:52 UTC  

christianity is pretty kewl

2020-12-08 06:11:47 UTC  

like

2020-12-08 06:11:56 UTC  

jesus is a homeboy

2020-12-08 06:12:11 UTC  

and God is the original G

2020-12-08 06:12:25 UTC  

Tru

2020-12-08 06:12:33 UTC  

ya

2020-12-08 06:12:41 UTC  

just thought id spread the truth ya know

2020-12-08 06:58:33 UTC  

Wooooo tithing

2020-12-08 06:58:47 UTC  

That reminds me, I forgot to do mine on my last few paychecks

2020-12-08 07:05:40 UTC  

xD

2020-12-08 07:05:47 UTC  

I have $102 of tithing

2020-12-08 07:06:18 UTC  

Apparently I've gained and lost over 1k this year 😬

2020-12-08 07:52:28 UTC  

This ..this is what I'm saying. JESUS said we only needed to do two things to be saved and neither was choose a certain church as that was religion.

2020-12-08 14:15:28 UTC  

I know the obvious differences between catholic and protestant. But knowing how corrupt today's pope is and about the history of sexual abuse of young boys in the catholic church I have no desire to research that church anymore and certainly no desire to join.

2020-12-08 14:37:17 UTC  

Nice video, Jimmy Akin is a great apologist

2020-12-08 14:57:39 UTC  

Don't know if this is the right place, but got banned on YouTube yesterday for posting mainstream Christian views, then got banned on r/youtube for posting about it. Lost 13+ years of content on YouTube, and even though they suspended the account, they didn't suspend my premium YouTube subscription. Figures. I figured out a way to cancel it. Anyway. Sorry Tyler, I no longer will get updates on your videos, or be able to support you.

2020-12-08 15:04:09 UTC  

The denominations split for reason. If it's a good enough reason for them to not have fellowship, you should at least look into why and not assume it's nothing. Even from their own judgement, it's not nothing. It's so serious, they won't have communion because of it.

2020-12-08 15:07:46 UTC  

A lot. To go over the difference would take at least 96 pages. 😉 However, the reason Luther was excommunicated, and is the only branch of protestantism that came from the Catholic Church, was two confessions. The Pope is not the head of the church (the big reason), and you're saved by faith alone.

2020-12-08 15:39:18 UTC  

dang dude, that sucks

2020-12-08 16:06:24 UTC  

I know the tithing talk was earlier, but I’m always worried I’ll forget one week, and then when I’m asked at tithing settlement if I pay a full tithe, I’ll say yes, and it will be a lie. 😬

2020-12-08 17:05:34 UTC  

Oof

2020-12-08 18:24:34 UTC  

Freaking. Same. Just did tithing settlement actually. The bishop thought it was funny that I’d always paid it in person

2020-12-08 18:24:50 UTC  

I hate doing it online but now that I have a job I kind of need to

2020-12-08 18:25:40 UTC  

Yikessssss. Same though. Just blew almost a thousand dollars on a college computer

2020-12-08 18:46:24 UTC  

Am I dumb idk what a tithing settlement is

2020-12-08 18:49:16 UTC  

I don't know either 🤔

2020-12-08 18:53:47 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-08 22:44:20 UTC  

i gonna assume they're Mormon bc thats the terminology we use. Basically its when you meet with the Bishop and go over the tithing you have paid in the year, and you say if you're a full, part, or non tithe payer

2020-12-08 22:59:15 UTC  

The wicked in his proud countenance does not seek God; God is in none of his thoughts.
Psalms 10:4 NKJV

This verse i found will be a good one to remember when talking to others about why there is so much evil in the world.

2020-12-08 23:13:05 UTC  

thank you

2020-12-08 23:25:49 UTC  

If a doctor tells you that you need to do X treatment to be cured and then you go tell your friends and family you trust that doctor without obeying that doctor's commands then you do not have faith in that doctor and you will die from your disease, despite your claims of faith.

(BTW I say "you" in the general sense and not "You" specifically.)

The same is true of faith in Jesus. If you do not do as Jesus commanded you to do, then you do not have real faith.

You cannot have faith that is without works.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202%3A14-26&version=NKJV;NLT

2020-12-08 23:29:58 UTC  

I agree. There's other ways to look at it and prove the principal, but I agree. I was just stating the facts, not my judgement or opinion.

2020-12-08 23:34:09 UTC  

Speaking on my own, I've found that trying to find out if we are saved (minimalistically) is asking the wrong question. We ought to love Jesus, love others, and do what Jesus commands both in love and humility to him. I'd rather take my chances on his grace than attempt to figure out if I'm good enough. That's just my personal reflection.

2020-12-08 23:38:53 UTC  

The differences between Catholic, Reformed, and Orthodox theology is a very long study, and each detail rooted in a long chain of events in history. That was why I boiled it down to the reason given by the Roman church as to why they excommunicated Luther.

2020-12-08 23:39:53 UTC  

Indeed even St.Pual would not judge himself and left it to the Lord. Our goal should not be to check various boxes on our "how to get to heaven checklist" but to be as loving and kind as we can be.

I often think about how raising children has a theology hidden inside it. Children can be very difficult, needy, and selfish and yet we are commanded by God and even by our corrupt society to love them. '

If we treat others with a fraction of the love we treat our children with we would be much closer to heaven.

2020-12-08 23:40:24 UTC  

The church is a hospital for sinners run by sinners. The teachings of the church are true. This does not mean that the people running it are going to be good people.

Furthermore, while Pope Francis is undeniably liberal and naive, the media always misquotes him to reframe his words and push their agenda.

If the media says the Pope said something there is a 100% chance they have taken it completely out of context and likely changed the meaning of what he was saying.

(I still do not like him though btw, but he is not the antichrist everyone is trying to make him out to be.)

2020-12-08 23:40:56 UTC  

Also, the church is no different than other organizations that have contact with children. The Media desperately tries to go after the church whenever possible. They hate all Christians and especially Catholics.

Evil people will always infiltrate any organization with children to get to them. This does not mean that the organization as a whole is corrupt. Look and compare other organizations and their sexual abuse problems with the problems in the church.

It is not honest at all to condemn the church as an organization that exclusively abuses children while pretending that other organizations are pure. For example, look at the boy scouts of America. recently they got hit with 90,000 abuse claims.

I am not saying that "it's ok because other people do it." (It is not and everyone who is involved in the abuse and cover up at the very least needs to go to prison, and will without a doubt face a harsh condemnation from The Lord when they meet Him.)

I am saying that blaming the Catholic church as an organization for the sexual abuse rather than blaming the individuals directly involved with the abuse is dishonest.

2020-12-08 23:41:16 UTC  

Remember how much Jesus got after the religious leaders in His day. Yet he condemned the leaders and did not write off Judaism as a whole. Rather He fulfilled the promises of Judaism.

Jesus created One church: The Catholic Church. Despite all of the sinners in it who do not follow its teachings themselves, it still teaches the truth. I would recommend looking into the early church and what they taught and why and then deciding if you want to look further into it.

There is a huge wealth of knowledge and philosophy that goes ignored and many difficult questions about God have been pondered by great minds for over 2000 years. Even if you do not like "todays" church you may still find great value in the wisdom of the minds long past.

2020-12-08 23:42:22 UTC  

Agreed