Consider the lobster

quick reminder to read, i made several

See what I mean

DUDE. not cool

“Civil discourse”😂😂<:KEKWait:780472182387376130> <:Ben_Cringe:752572527120875520>

you completely disregard the fact that it *doesn't matter* if it's alive. A fetus doesn't have *personhood*, because it does not exist on it's own, it is an extension of your body and therefore, if you are pregnant, it is morally permissable to abort the fetus/

killing the baby is justified

Very civil indeed

"killing"

lol

hey buddy im just joking buddy

try to learn to take a joke

lol 🙄 classic snowflakes

none of us exist on our own

Oh so are they less than a human?

This phrase is ... abhorrent. You should feel sick for seriously believing this

as a woman whose adopted brothers birth mother DIED in child birth I would say the choice is the mothers. That being said if the mother makes the choice of killing her child instead of having it I do think it is immoral, BUT my thoughts are not the force that will ultimately judge her soul 🙂

thanks for acknowledging it's alive, you just flat-lined your entire argument.

we need other things to live

it makes plenty of sense

Real classy you are eh?

food, water, sunlight

did they win?

the dems?

A woman dying because of that is not the same moral argument, but I do think under that circumstance that abortion should be allowed, under the woman’s own judgement that a whole life, start to end is being likely being cut short

if all these go poof

yes extremely classy

i wasn't responding to your point. that person said "someone values their own life, if they were to be threatened they would protect themselves". in that case, if a woman protects herself by getting an abortion, it would be morally permissable. that's what happens when you make a naturalist argument

no baby anything can survive on it's own wtf kind of excuse is that

if u want to talk in vc u can happily join

okay. this debate is going in circles. i haven't seen either sides provided links/facts to back their case. both are just arguing on emotional stance

🙂 it's getting rather toxic

Nobody wants to talk to you in VC😂

doesn't matter who you were responding to you still screwed yourself over

you played yourself

That’s the tenth time you’ve asked

This isn’t really an argument of facts, just morals

I am perfectly happy typing on my laptop 🙂

let's not swoop down to personal attack

But yeah it’s getting nowhere

furthermore, this RARELY if ever happens, and it's still not an argument to justify abortion