lol

hey buddy im just joking buddy

try to learn to take a joke

lol 🙄 classic snowflakes

none of us exist on our own

Oh so are they less than a human?

This phrase is ... abhorrent. You should feel sick for seriously believing this

as a woman whose adopted brothers birth mother DIED in child birth I would say the choice is the mothers. That being said if the mother makes the choice of killing her child instead of having it I do think it is immoral, BUT my thoughts are not the force that will ultimately judge her soul 🙂

thanks for acknowledging it's alive, you just flat-lined your entire argument.

we need other things to live

it makes plenty of sense

Real classy you are eh?

food, water, sunlight

did they win?

the dems?

A woman dying because of that is not the same moral argument, but I do think under that circumstance that abortion should be allowed, under the woman’s own judgement that a whole life, start to end is being likely being cut short

if all these go poof

yes extremely classy

i wasn't responding to your point. that person said "someone values their own life, if they were to be threatened they would protect themselves". in that case, if a woman protects herself by getting an abortion, it would be morally permissable. that's what happens when you make a naturalist argument

no baby anything can survive on it's own wtf kind of excuse is that

if u want to talk in vc u can happily join

okay. this debate is going in circles. i haven't seen either sides provided links/facts to back their case. both are just arguing on emotional stance

🙂 it's getting rather toxic

Nobody wants to talk to you in VC😂

doesn't matter who you were responding to you still screwed yourself over

you played yourself

That’s the tenth time you’ve asked

This isn’t really an argument of facts, just morals

I am perfectly happy typing on my laptop 🙂

let's not swoop down to personal attack

But yeah it’s getting nowhere

furthermore, this RARELY if ever happens, and it's still not an argument to justify abortion

NEXT

like I don't think its right to have sex for fun

i've already explained that i don't give fetuses moral consideration because they don't have personhood. we justify murder all the time, kyle rittenhouse was justified in killing the people that assaulted him (that is a justified killing). in the same sense, we are justified aborting a fetus because it does not personhood

Wouldn’t expect any different really

I’m perfectly happy to hand out some quiet time if it gets to toxic 😂

@BIRdOS brooo ya heard of plant sex? It's like really weird yo

abortion is an emotional topic.... it has no real fact behind either side... it is just MAINLY a debate of morals

you're gonna run out of straws with all these terrible strawmans

_not_ me