lol 🙄 classic snowflakes

none of us exist on our own

Oh so are they less than a human?

This phrase is ... abhorrent. You should feel sick for seriously believing this

as a woman whose adopted brothers birth mother DIED in child birth I would say the choice is the mothers. That being said if the mother makes the choice of killing her child instead of having it I do think it is immoral, BUT my thoughts are not the force that will ultimately judge her soul 🙂

thanks for acknowledging it's alive, you just flat-lined your entire argument.

we need other things to live

it makes plenty of sense

Real classy you are eh?

food, water, sunlight

did they win?

the dems?

A woman dying because of that is not the same moral argument, but I do think under that circumstance that abortion should be allowed, under the woman’s own judgement that a whole life, start to end is being likely being cut short

if all these go poof

yes extremely classy

i wasn't responding to your point. that person said "someone values their own life, if they were to be threatened they would protect themselves". in that case, if a woman protects herself by getting an abortion, it would be morally permissable. that's what happens when you make a naturalist argument

no baby anything can survive on it's own wtf kind of excuse is that

if u want to talk in vc u can happily join

okay. this debate is going in circles. i haven't seen either sides provided links/facts to back their case. both are just arguing on emotional stance

🙂 it's getting rather toxic

Nobody wants to talk to you in VC😂

doesn't matter who you were responding to you still screwed yourself over

you played yourself

That’s the tenth time you’ve asked

This isn’t really an argument of facts, just morals

I am perfectly happy typing on my laptop 🙂

let's not swoop down to personal attack

But yeah it’s getting nowhere

furthermore, this RARELY if ever happens, and it's still not an argument to justify abortion

NEXT

like I don't think its right to have sex for fun

i've already explained that i don't give fetuses moral consideration because they don't have personhood. we justify murder all the time, kyle rittenhouse was justified in killing the people that assaulted him (that is a justified killing). in the same sense, we are justified aborting a fetus because it does not personhood

Wouldn’t expect any different really

I’m perfectly happy to hand out some quiet time if it gets to toxic 😂

@BIRdOS brooo ya heard of plant sex? It's like really weird yo

abortion is an emotional topic.... it has no real fact behind either side... it is just MAINLY a debate of morals

you're gonna run out of straws with all these terrible strawmans

_not_ me

you can get facts on the number of abortions that was done and the reasons behind the abortions to explain why most abortions are not done out of "safety for mother's life" or "rape"

do you not know what an analogy is? ur kinda stupid

:( how rude