Message from @Wood-Ape - OK/MN
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Become the patriarch of your family - a leader in your chapter, the cornerstone of your church or community, people will gravitate to you when they otherwise would not.
I really like this group, I just want to know how exactly we are going to improve our lives in the future. I'm sorry Ian, I deleted that myself
I wondered where that went 😂
It is easy to get into "bunker mentality." I struggle with it myself
@Eugene of Savoy a lot of it is building our social capital. when you don't know what to do, work on yourself
Isolation exacerbates bunkerism
Connection leads one out of bunker
Look, if you're asking for a ten step plan to save Evropans, you're in the wrong organization - heck, you're in the wrong reality. Life does not work that way. As the neo-reactionaries say, we need to **become worthy** of power, respect and capital. Are you? Are you working on it? Would you know what to do with power if it was handed to you? Do you have a network of friends who could help you run a society, assuming you were handed the keys? If not, why not?
Agreed.
I mean is anyone with power actually worthy in any sense other than having it? But otherwise I do very much agree. Building support networks and skills and families and communities is good for any future, mundane or outlandish.
@Eugene of Savoy Look at what the left has done with power, compared to the right.
oops i meant to tag @Wood-Ape - OK/MN
It’s probably going to be a bumpy few decades and it’s going to be over a span of multiple generations. As painful as it is to be patient during this, the upside is the impact you can make in the next 50 years.
They do a better job of uniting identitarians I believe
I agree that the arch of history is long
Whether that’s building a large family, building the network, setting an example for friends, family and offspring, starting a business or saving money for your offspring, you have a lot of years to build and contribute. Don’t focus so much on the day to day noise
We could accelerate the process and use their weight against them so to speak
That's how we got Bolsonero
The left uses power effectively. "Worthy" has moral implications that doesn't seem applicable
"accelerate the process" I'm always weary of supposed shortcuts, there's always hidden costs
Look at the neo-Cons, a small conglomeration of ex-marxist Jews (mostly)... seeded the entire right wing for many many decades, forever changing us policy . Neocons wield power effectively. The left absolutely has wielded power effectively. They aren't worthy recipients of power, but they are effective and worthy of wielding it - because they wield it well. We need to learn how to do that.
I mean worthy in a practical sense, not a moral sense.
Looks like folks are talking smack about us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N22Da8beQZo
Agreed 100%. Skill and capacity and resources are what is needed for that, though. NrX have quasi-religious thinking in many respects (monarchy fetishism being one), the worthiness quip being another
@apronandlace blessed image
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I happen to agree with much of it, though your assessment isn't wrong.
Ah, okay. I hear what you're saying. I'd select a clearer word.
When Trump goes down there will be an opportunity for one of us to step up. I don't thing that is a crazy concept
I am a poseur though. Never read Moldbug.
The NrX "worthiness" concept may be interpreted as the Chinese "Mandate of Heaven." You lose it when you no longer have it, you get it when you do.
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Not exactly.
But I see why you would think so.
It's hard for me to articulate.
Mandate of Heaven or spirit of the times?
Just seems to be who has their hands on the gold and iron, tbh. Gotta get hearts before that.
@Nemets very good, thank you for sharing. Interesting spiritual twist there at the end of it.
The worthiness thing can be interpreted in a divine right to rule manner but the NRx guys usually promote it in more practical terms