Message from @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

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2019-01-09 03:48:07 UTC  

Become the patriarch of your family - a leader in your chapter, the cornerstone of your church or community, people will gravitate to you when they otherwise would not.

2019-01-09 03:48:12 UTC  

I really like this group, I just want to know how exactly we are going to improve our lives in the future. I'm sorry Ian, I deleted that myself

2019-01-09 03:48:29 UTC  

I wondered where that went 😂

2019-01-09 03:48:50 UTC  

It is easy to get into "bunker mentality." I struggle with it myself

2019-01-09 03:49:07 UTC  

@Eugene of Savoy a lot of it is building our social capital. when you don't know what to do, work on yourself

2019-01-09 03:49:15 UTC  

Isolation exacerbates bunkerism

2019-01-09 03:49:51 UTC  

Connection leads one out of bunker

2019-01-09 03:51:15 UTC  

Look, if you're asking for a ten step plan to save Evropans, you're in the wrong organization - heck, you're in the wrong reality. Life does not work that way. As the neo-reactionaries say, we need to **become worthy** of power, respect and capital. Are you? Are you working on it? Would you know what to do with power if it was handed to you? Do you have a network of friends who could help you run a society, assuming you were handed the keys? If not, why not?

2019-01-09 03:52:25 UTC  

Agreed.

2019-01-09 03:53:27 UTC  

I mean is anyone with power actually worthy in any sense other than having it? But otherwise I do very much agree. Building support networks and skills and families and communities is good for any future, mundane or outlandish.

2019-01-09 03:54:59 UTC  

@Eugene of Savoy Look at what the left has done with power, compared to the right.

2019-01-09 03:55:09 UTC  

oops i meant to tag @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

2019-01-09 03:55:40 UTC  

It’s probably going to be a bumpy few decades and it’s going to be over a span of multiple generations. As painful as it is to be patient during this, the upside is the impact you can make in the next 50 years.

2019-01-09 03:55:45 UTC  

They do a better job of uniting identitarians I believe

2019-01-09 03:56:39 UTC  

I agree that the arch of history is long

2019-01-09 03:57:32 UTC  

Whether that’s building a large family, building the network, setting an example for friends, family and offspring, starting a business or saving money for your offspring, you have a lot of years to build and contribute. Don’t focus so much on the day to day noise

2019-01-09 03:57:57 UTC  

We could accelerate the process and use their weight against them so to speak

2019-01-09 03:58:27 UTC  

That's how we got Bolsonero

2019-01-09 03:58:38 UTC  

The left uses power effectively. "Worthy" has moral implications that doesn't seem applicable

2019-01-09 03:58:44 UTC  

"accelerate the process" I'm always weary of supposed shortcuts, there's always hidden costs

2019-01-09 03:59:04 UTC  

"Effectiveness", rather, seems more appropriate

2019-01-09 03:59:14 UTC  

Look at the neo-Cons, a small conglomeration of ex-marxist Jews (mostly)... seeded the entire right wing for many many decades, forever changing us policy . Neocons wield power effectively. The left absolutely has wielded power effectively. They aren't worthy recipients of power, but they are effective and worthy of wielding it - because they wield it well. We need to learn how to do that.

2019-01-09 03:59:34 UTC  

I mean worthy in a practical sense, not a moral sense.

2019-01-09 03:59:40 UTC  

Looks like folks are talking smack about us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N22Da8beQZo

2019-01-09 04:00:35 UTC  

Agreed 100%. Skill and capacity and resources are what is needed for that, though. NrX have quasi-religious thinking in many respects (monarchy fetishism being one), the worthiness quip being another

2019-01-09 04:01:19 UTC  

@apronandlace blessed image

2019-01-09 04:01:20 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I happen to agree with much of it, though your assessment isn't wrong.

2019-01-09 04:01:24 UTC  

Ah, okay. I hear what you're saying. I'd select a clearer word.

2019-01-09 04:02:16 UTC  

When Trump goes down there will be an opportunity for one of us to step up. I don't thing that is a crazy concept

2019-01-09 04:02:39 UTC  

I am a poseur though. Never read Moldbug.

2019-01-09 04:04:27 UTC  

The NrX "worthiness" concept may be interpreted as the Chinese "Mandate of Heaven." You lose it when you no longer have it, you get it when you do.

2019-01-09 04:04:43 UTC  

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2019-01-09 04:04:58 UTC  

🔄

2019-01-09 04:05:18 UTC  

Not exactly.

2019-01-09 04:05:29 UTC  

But I see why you would think so.

2019-01-09 04:05:35 UTC  

It's hard for me to articulate.

2019-01-09 04:05:51 UTC  

Mandate of Heaven or spirit of the times?

2019-01-09 04:06:10 UTC  

Just seems to be who has their hands on the gold and iron, tbh. Gotta get hearts before that.

2019-01-09 04:25:48 UTC  

@Nemets very good, thank you for sharing. Interesting spiritual twist there at the end of it.

2019-01-09 04:28:42 UTC  

The worthiness thing can be interpreted in a divine right to rule manner but the NRx guys usually promote it in more practical terms