Message from @Dan_Sundin

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2020-11-24 14:15:27 UTC  

Even just listing a giant list of accusations in a chart like you can find in Roberts slides

2020-11-24 14:15:36 UTC  

And their current status

2020-11-24 14:15:45 UTC  

That is gold.

2020-11-24 14:40:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771201221145919499/780804936135999548/image0.png

2020-11-24 14:40:03 UTC  

@Dan_Sundin, you just advanced to level 3!

2020-11-24 14:41:08 UTC  

Look like I missed a 'Never. For any reason. Ever.' conversation last night, dammit. I love those.

2020-11-24 14:41:40 UTC  

is trump finally agree he lose ? 🤔

2020-11-24 14:41:59 UTC  

His agreement is not required.

2020-11-24 14:42:13 UTC  

@ScottSnowden let’s go through some options of “Tape-Gate”.

If I want to align the piece of tape exactly aligned over the button/oval on the Scanner where it would align to mask the filled in area where the Trump marking on the ballot would appear such as no Trump votes were counted, that would be the reason for an Undervote (none of the candidates were marked, no write-in either, i.e. hand written name of candidate because the other listed prequalified names wasn’t your guy). Thus massive number of missing Trump votes. You don’t need to “be physically rigging” a bunch of machines, just enough to be significant to alter the outcome. You could intersperse rigged machines among straight machines but this would need to be introduced in main ballot counting centers under the control of Boards of Election officials and monitors. If you rig too many machines the numbers would be too far off.

Typically there is a 2% audit matching hand counted ballots to machine counted ballots, with exception reported. Most Precincts are/must be counted to insure one isn’t rigging that locations vote by corrupt officials there. Auditing could catch some of that or show that it is just a Democratic stronghold (LOL, yah right).

Placing tape in a high speed scanner could cause jamming events, plus tape could ware away over time because go the friction of ballots passing over the tape, but there is some tape material which wouldn’t ware out as much.

In regards to an Overvote rigging event to force all Trump votes as spoiled (too many candidates selected), the tape doesn’t work because it would also cause Biden votes to foul, same happens for the 3rd party candidate, Jorgensen. The dirty machine explanation works best, or a software rigged machine better, such as false reading to spoil one type of candidate selection randomizes.

(Part 1 of many)

2020-11-24 14:42:31 UTC  

No, he just allowed the GSA to start the process with Biden just in case he loses

2020-11-24 14:43:36 UTC  

good step

2020-11-24 14:43:55 UTC  

All these sorts of arguments are vulnerable to recounts

2020-11-24 14:44:04 UTC  

we deal with trump like a child, step by step 😊

2020-11-24 14:44:53 UTC  

(Continues from Part 1)

Because of the very low number of ballots selected for an Audit of 2% of the vote in precincts and voting centers (remember most votes in Arizona were cast in Early Voting locations around the counties, in Maricopa County 73.81%, and just 6.47% done on Election Day).

My contentions align with the need to have clean, inspected and calibrated scanners, as well as high-speed tabulation machines. The ballot folding issue needs to be researched more to find a solution in missing the voter’s selection above and below the fold, or maybe pre-folded areas around the ballot should not be used because of the frequencies of Undervote from that area, or just don’t fold the ballots in the first place. Ballots need to be constructed with self-auditing methodology to alert the operation that miscounting is taken place because of “Dirty machines” which need to be taken Out-of-Service for maintenance, cleaning, calibration and inspection, then re-Certified for reintroduction for tabulation service.

In Florida each voting location have one or multiple scanners so that the votes are tabulated real-time. There isn’t a need to bundle up the ballots, transport them to a main center. Once the polls close the Precinct uploads their results to the county election center, who accumulate voter totals for the entire country and forward those results up to the state election center. If re-Scanning (a Recount is necessary, the prescient can just rescan).

2020-11-24 14:45:18 UTC  

Bro just link the damn twitter instead of blind pasting and not talking

2020-11-24 14:45:25 UTC  

Are you a bot?

2020-11-24 14:45:50 UTC  

( @Maw does that count as ad hominem?)

2020-11-24 14:46:53 UTC  

Hahaha only if he's actually a bot. It's a touchy subject.

2020-11-24 14:51:07 UTC  

Don't ask, don't tell.

2020-11-24 15:00:40 UTC  

*ad robotem

2020-11-24 15:05:53 UTC  

@ScottSnowden regarding your other comment of ballots being run through the tabulation machines multiple times by taping over the ballot’s security or certificate number to try stopping the tabulation equipment from auditing multiple passes through the tabulation process.

That would assume that those security measures are in place and that data captured, updated and distributed around the centers for marking duplication of votes from being introduced into the count.

I don’t think these procedures are in place, but trusting the operation/personal from allowing those events for occurring, accidentally or on purpose.

Trust, but verify... then re-verify the verified... then audit to insure that errors and fraud doesn’t occur.

2020-11-24 15:08:36 UTC  

have a good look at the numbers your self.. demo thieves

2020-11-24 15:08:46 UTC  

Hi

2020-11-24 15:08:47 UTC  

@Watching the Watchers Is there a practice/art by really good lawyers to argue a case to lose at a local level in order to push the case up to a higher court where they intend to present a more effective argument for a win?

2020-11-24 15:09:55 UTC  

Yes Realz ...

2020-11-24 15:10:26 UTC  

Mourning all.

2020-11-24 15:10:38 UTC  

Yes, I mispelled it.

2020-11-24 15:10:57 UTC  

How you doin

2020-11-24 15:14:15 UTC  

Uncovering the ugly. Maricopa County, Arizona Certified their results ... well there too their Official Reports have errors and holes in them after being attested to as being True & Honest.

2020-11-24 15:16:51 UTC  

Even the local new services believe the Board of Election, who went before the Board of Supervisors saying its done, we did a great job. Signed off as CERTIFIED.

2020-11-24 15:17:26 UTC  

You think they are lying?

2020-11-24 15:17:33 UTC  

Where were all the conservatives demanding recounts and audits in 2016 when the margins were even closer. It’s like they all decided to by hyper vigilant all of a sudden about voting, seems odd

2020-11-24 15:18:12 UTC  

You can't expect a partisan to police himself

2020-11-24 15:18:52 UTC  

I suppose

2020-11-24 15:19:44 UTC  

This problem has been around for years, always blaming the VOTERS for the Overvote and Undervote. It is the system

2020-11-24 15:20:28 UTC  

Under the current logic being used by conservatives trump should not have been elected without such measures being taken

2020-11-24 15:21:03 UTC  

How about we just look at the data... then let the chips fall as they may. Come on Man!

2020-11-24 15:21:49 UTC  

That kind of thing would easily be caught in a hand recount though

2020-11-24 15:22:18 UTC  

Yeah unless it’s a conservative politicians then just let it slide but make a huge deal if a non conservative gets elected.

2020-11-24 15:23:24 UTC  

Think, reason and find better ways of doing things... don’t hid it under the box, but exposed to the light of day. But upmost, quit blaming the Voters!