Message from @Dan_Sundin

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2020-11-24 15:47:08 UTC  

I think that no matter what it should be based on postmark

2020-11-24 15:47:14 UTC  

It is

2020-11-24 15:47:35 UTC  

Votes mailed after a certain day don’t get counted

2020-11-24 15:47:37 UTC  

No, the better play is to a hobble an already straining service which is guaranteed to be overwhelmed by the spike and then cry foul.

2020-11-24 15:48:04 UTC  

The post office can handle ballots over a months time with no issue

2020-11-24 15:48:25 UTC  

They deal with 10 billion pieces of mail during the holidays

2020-11-24 15:48:26 UTC  

The post office was never the main method of collecting the vote! But in the year of Covid it became a wiping post.

2020-11-24 15:48:33 UTC  

They can deal with ballots with ease

2020-11-24 15:49:34 UTC  

Also if that is something conservatives believed they would not support defunding and cutting the overtime of workers at the post office during a election year where many people would vote by mail

2020-11-24 15:49:56 UTC  

The post office was there to process the absentee balloting, which is and always has been a subset of those who were not going to be available to go to their precincts to vote on Election Day.

2020-11-24 15:50:17 UTC  

The post office can handle regular ballots just fine.

2020-11-24 15:50:34 UTC  

That precede was expanded to weeks out with Early Voting.

2020-11-24 15:50:34 UTC  

7 states have been exclusively voting by mail for decades

2020-11-24 15:51:02 UTC  

This idea that the post office can’t handle it would only be true if you intentionally try to weaken it as trump tried to do

2020-11-24 15:52:09 UTC  

And There are deadlines of getting your vote in to the Election Board, otherwise it is considered to be a “Late Ballot” thus uncounted.

2020-11-24 15:52:55 UTC  

Right that is my point , the citizen can do everything right but then they are penalized for the post office being slow

2020-11-24 15:53:50 UTC  

Which is why trump trying to defund the post office and cut overtime when he knew many people would vote by mail was such a big deal. It’s why congress had to step in and reverse those changes

2020-11-24 15:54:29 UTC  

But even if the post office is slow wouldn’t the ballot till be postmarked before or on November 3d?

2020-11-24 15:55:15 UTC  

Normally but in some states they have odd rules where if the ballot is late despite it being postmarked it doesn’t get counted

2020-11-24 15:56:00 UTC  

That is what the trump administration is fighting in Pennsylvania where 10000 late ballots arrived however they were post marked before or on Election Day

2020-11-24 15:57:12 UTC  

The individual state legislators established their election law, which run the term of the election window... if they need to be changed, the next legislative body determines that, the courts don’t change election law, nor do the Secretary of State... nor Governors. If the laws are unconstitutional, then the courts can be involved..,

2020-11-24 15:57:53 UTC  

It is by state but the post office is federal

2020-11-24 15:58:21 UTC  

Trump was trying to slow down the post office so ballots would arrive outside of that window

2020-11-24 15:58:31 UTC  

State Law says, received by the Board of Elections by the Election Day on or before the polls close.

2020-11-24 15:58:31 UTC  

@Dan_Sundin, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-11-24 15:59:31 UTC  

Thus voters being faulted for something they had no control over

2020-11-24 15:59:35 UTC  

I have seen the proof. Over vote of almost 78K in Nevada, according to official Secretary of State documents. The bigger question in all of this, why isn’t main stream media covering this? Why are the calling Biden “president elect” before the electors have met, this is a coup against our govt - and I’m independent and didn’t even like him before based on what I’ve heard; after researching he has done more for this country than any president since Reagan. And I am not biased, I don’t watch news. This is from researching facts

2020-11-24 15:59:39 UTC  

Just do your job and vote early, mail or in person.

2020-11-24 15:59:48 UTC  

@jodib post proof

2020-11-24 16:00:51 UTC  

They did vote early , and voted legally yet their votes can be omitted due to the post office messing up , thus penalizing the voter even though they did everything correctly @Dan_Sundin

2020-11-24 16:01:24 UTC  

@james j Everyone knows when the ballots are due and most ppl who vote by mail don’t wait until the last minute to send their ballot.

2020-11-24 16:01:47 UTC  

Hang on I’ll get your proof

2020-11-24 16:02:01 UTC  

@james j In 2016 we expected the margins to be close. And because of media lies, I mistakenly thought Trump was as bad as Clinton. So, I voted for the only awakened mind that appeared to be left: Jill Stein. Then I discovered the MSM are LIARS, Trump is a GREAT President, the Democratic Party are Communists, the Corporate RINO's are collaborators, and this election is about whether or not the United States and Lockean Principle will continue to exist on earth.

2020-11-24 16:02:12 UTC  

The technical description of an Overvote is when a voter marks two (or more entries for a ballot contest that calls for just one entry. In some contest there can be more than one entry, like two or three.

2020-11-24 16:02:23 UTC  

@jodib yet it’s their right to wait , that is not illegal. The point is it’s not their fault for the post office messing up . Which again is why trying to slow down the post office was a move to disenfranchise voters

2020-11-24 16:03:20 UTC  

There was No intent to "slow down" the post office for the election. The slow down was because the new director was attempting to get a handle on all the excessive overtime.

2020-11-24 16:03:43 UTC  

@Whithers great , I am talking about the same people who voted for trump and didn’t say anything last election when the margins were much closer. These same people will tell you they care about voter fraud in general however their behaviors don’t match up

2020-11-24 16:03:59 UTC  

I think the Overvote vote you are referring to in Nevada is regarding to having more votes collected in precincts than are registered to vote in that precinct. Which is confusing l. I’ll admit.

2020-11-24 16:05:03 UTC  

@Whithers the post office did in-fact slow down and people were not getting their medication. Sure you can believe there was no intent but the actions say otherwise. Especially knowing the election was coming up and many people majority democrat would vote by mail

2020-11-24 16:05:41 UTC  

Rudy Giuliani said as much, some precincts had 2 to 3 times the population including children vote.

2020-11-24 16:05:45 UTC  

Yes, the post office slowed down but not for the reason you ascribe.