Research.

@Doc he's unhappy with my decision that the elections channel is our politics channel.

@james j the youngest pt I have gotten referred by these transgender sexologists was 12.

For me its 60$ porterhouse and 20y/o scotch day though

I read or heard at one point that there might be some changes based in science that kind of throws wrench into the whole XX/XY dichotomy. There is apparently a gene that will over ride the gender chromosomes that will result in a XY physical female and a XX physical male. It was fascinating. Maybe @Doc knows more...

I have and very time I am heard that claim it was debunked @Beth

I'd have to see some peer reviewed work to believe that

@TaLoN132 You have a range of congenital disorders of the sex-chromosomes.

natual sexual reoriantation is not election material that's an oddball 13x rarer than albino ^^

@𝕴𝖓𝖞𝖇𝖎𝖘𝕴𝖓𝖘𝖚𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖊, you just advanced to level 14!

Lots of people claim all kinds of stuff until it stands against scrutiny I'll pass

So you’re okay with 12 year olds too? It shouldn’t be able to happen until they are an adult. End of in my book

Strangely enough, you're not the first person to tell me that...

@TaLoN132 any MD can tell you that.

Lmao @Maw time to make a politics general channel

Lol

Why did I start this conversation 🙈😂

Would you give children drugs, say morphine or even tobacco? ^^

@𝕴𝖓𝖞𝖇𝖎𝖘𝕴𝖓𝖘𝖚𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖊 Watch any football today?

@Doc Do you not think some configuration of fetal development in the range between typical male and typical female ( I believe we all develop in the womb as female first) . There can be a point on the continuum where you have someone with xy chromosomes but as you develop you develop as a male physical but the brain does not develop into a typical make brain

> I can talk to Faith about branching off a separate politics chat, but for now just presume all political things are discussed in here.
@Maw

Just kidding

I'm all in for ruining someone's life that's why I'm still kicking after all ^^

@james j the brain develops identity based on data. Not genes.

Tobacco no, morphine no, unless they were in hospital an very much needed it. I know nothing about morphine though so I don’t know

@Beth I think a safe age to start hormone therapy would be 16 with the freezing of sperm or eggs . But I’m no doctor

So please, instead of arguing semantics with me, wait until we can get it sorted out. @𝕴𝖓𝖞𝖇𝖎𝖘𝕴𝖓𝖘𝖚𝖑𝖆𝖙𝖊

I’m sorry that’s insane

I’m talking about the physical structure of the brain @Doc pre birth

@Beth how so ?

Freezing eggs isn’t simple you know

@james j that is changed by the Y chromosome in the phoetus.

You can impair this, though.

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So the brain in structure is more like a brain that was not under influence of the Y chromosome.

What?

with plastics or organophosphates for instace.

Yes , I don’t think you answered my question about the range of possible outcomes between female and male development in the womb and all the possible configurations that can exist on that continuum @Doc

drugs as in secondary effects like addiction. I woudn't want my future ruined because my weiner got wedged and seperated (let's not get into that example bit fey on that)

I think 16 would be legal age for drinking or owning guns without restrictions if you can decide to neuter yourself at that age

@Beth it is possible though