> things aren't boding well for the Donald it seems
@Adam135 All they need is one hit in order to forget the litany of misses and get all hyper again. It doesn't even matter how important the hit is.

Trump is done. His flock will never be.

they are trying to see what sticks

Yes. Yes they are. It's all fantasy.

I agree there are problems with the sampling, but those problems are solvable if done by the government

They would assert that it is all part of the plan to get it to the SC.

He grew a pretty loyal following, 75 million now almost.

And without the government this is the best you can be expected to do

It also places bounds

You now know some maximum

If something intersects with reality, it won't be because they knew it. That ship has sailed. Before the election would have been a better time imo.

Barnes just said “even rekita” referring to saying Powell is wonky. So I guess rekita is pretty far right wing

If nothing gained traction so far, I don't see how it would fair better on SCOTUS

Rekieta is just unabashedly right wing, I dunno how far he is

He does 3 hour live streams and things get more personal I guess

Ah

Barnes, even though he is right wing, has an awareness of a centrist perspective

> He grew a pretty loyal following, 75 million now almost.
@Adam135 I contend that not all of them are blind followers. Not by a long shot.

I.e he words his stuff more ... Dunno the right words for it, professionally? Neutral?

Reserved?

> I.e he words his stuff more ... Dunno the right words for it, professionally? Neutral?
@realz That's might not be mere coincidence. It goes a long way. Some people know that.

Barnes is giving qanon too much credit as being not as crazy as it really is

They don't seem blind, they seem pretty moderately informed and have extreme skepticism for the media

as they should

I've heard him bash qanon many times quite sufficiently heh

Lol that doesn't leave every claim as reality until proven otherwise @Adam135

I almost never take any one at face value any more, I research everything

My point is, if faced with the same decision again in 2024 as they were in 2020, it's likely they will vote the same way

Yeah he is live-streaming right now and kinda hedging and saying thing like the left conspiracy theories are much worse.

Left conspiracy theories used to be like antivaxx stuff and gmos are bad. But now I see that incorporated into qanon quite heavily @realz

Mmm

Well I don't feel the need to defend qanon heh

What exactly is qanon saying these days?

Well, if the left conspiracy theories are worse, then any other is necessarily true. Science

Yeah but it’s interesting because the beginning of the hangout was viva and Barnes complaining how they got a lot of qanon hate but they still have to frame it a way the the left is much worse conspiracy wise. Which I’m not too sure about @realz

Me neither

I think that we are almost to the point of having a system in place that will ensure free and fair elections. I think that having voting machines with paper ballot backup is the right approach and more secure than paper ballots only. They provide a check/balance on each other. With paper only, people will claim that someone replaced votes in the background. Electronic only can potentially be hacked with not way of knowing what actually occurred. If we add the ability for people to log in and check that their recorded ballot matched what they intended. And add the ability to issue a Voter Photo ID at the time of registration to people who don't have photo ID and/or enable 2-factor authentication for voter identification. It will close all remaining known vulnerabilities.

You (royal you) have to learn not to hold anyone to a pedestal standard, and "eat the meat spit out the bones"; I disagree with Barnes often and I still appreciate his vast knowledge and his insights

who is Barnes

and just as importantly, having partisan poll watchers.

I only put legal eagle on a pedestal @realz

(I’m kidding)