Message from @JD~Jordan
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Well... look... what is the remedy? I mean, I dont think there was fraud at least nothing widespread or effective. But even assuming there was a little, what is the remedy?
The lawsuits are arguing that the Plaintiffs (voters, electors, candidates) were disenfranchised. So now they want to Courts to disenfranchised tens of millions more people by tossing all the votes out?
Usually the remedy is to throw out the fraud
It takes time for all the evidence to come pouring in. They had to process all the people with their affidavits, etc. They are trying to do this in record time.
Right... to throw out the fraud (the fraudulent votes) but they havent proven any exist. Even if they did they can't be throwing out ALL mail in ballots because the overwhelming majority of those voters followed the law
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well suppose they stuff the ballot box in GA ... there were 46k ballots cast top of the ticket that are NOT reflected in the down line voting (i.e. didn't mark anything down line) ... almost all went toward Biden ... actually all GA website is displaying is votes NOT ballots so I'm assuming that total top of ticket is total ballots ... interestingly enough there are about 50k+ folks that voted Libertarian in the Senate race that went for Biden for president ... almost every Rep Senate vote also went for Trump (again under my assumption) ... now this could be ballot stuffing or folks just voting top of ticket (that is likely as not)
Ouch
The remedy is to assume bad faith on the precincts for the entire count and throw out their ballots. If you don't want you ballot to be thrown out, make sure the election officials in your area are people who won't fraudulently count your ballots.
That doesnt seem feasible
No... that is not completely true. In the PA cases they wanted the court to strike down the mail in ballot law that was passed in 2019. That law has not changed since then. They knew it existed but they only complained about it when Trump lost. That sort of crap is barred via the Doctrine of Laches @TW20
@JD~Jordan, you just advanced to level 2!
The law did change but same same they should have ditched it pre election
Explain to me how I am suppose to make sure of that?
That is a ridiculous standard and certainly not a legal one
So if Biden sends a person to your GOP heavy poll and makes a fraud boom throw them all out? 🤣
That is basically what he is saying... its ridiculous
Letting a person sabotage lots of votes is way worse than casting a single fraud vote
And look... I watched one of those hearings today and one lady testified that the GOP lawyer advised her to challenge each and every ballot and in advance of them even looking at it. That is bad faith.
That's been a voter intimidation theme for a while
Thanks JD-Jordam. Well they need to revisit the Doctrine of Latches. PA has some crazy lawmakers writing this up.
Who spoke in GA?
No, Latches has been around forever. It prevents people from laying back and waiting on the outcome. It would be like me seeing a potential problem in the law but that problem might actually benefit me so I wait and see... if it benefits me I do nothing but if it doesn't I challenge it
it is akin tot he clean hands doctrine.... dont be shady
The doctrine of latches made sense to me they cant just be 1 million legal ballots tossed your rights have no meaning hahahaha
I see. Thanks for the clarification JD
Yeppers
Do you mean Gabriel Sterling?
YEA
And its hard to argue with his logic
I saw highlights... He always handles himself well, I think.
Is there a tldr of Gabriel's message I'm watching some tv 😅
I can get you a link to the video
Anyone know what this one is about? https://twitter.com/andrew_havranek/status/1333883106001039360?s=21
Just looks like notice of the filing of a complaint or an amended complaint asking respondents to respond
What department
Yeah Gabriel Sterling. It's too bad there are some bad apples on both sides. Doesnt matter which side you look at. Some will not think before acting. How do we know who it was who is doing the threatening. Could they be paid to do this type of domestic terrorism and smear a few in the process
Thanks lol
Yeppers