I disagree, I think you may be misunderstanding how a decentralized system works. Planning and coordination is not a requirement in a decentralized system. While that may take place, it is not the way you would expect to see it looking from centralized point of view, which is certainly easier to prosecute because everyone understands it without explanation. You will find these things equivalent to AI code, or the way the Apache society functioned for example.

@TaLoN132 is a phisher of users?

Correct and I think that state legislatures are going to look to the court to see if they have ruled that yes indeed there was election fraud and there was enough of it to bring the popular vote into question. So far I don't think we've seen that and it gets less likely every day that passes that we will see that. So I suspect that when the electors meet in December Joe Biden will have enough electoral votes to become president. Then the question will be whether evidence will come out afterwards that's powerful enough and persuasive enough to cause the Congress to act. Again I count this as long odds from what we've seen so far. This is why the Senate races in Georgia are so important.

An example of this is the summer where all the "peaceful protests" took place. This was very loosely organized and certainly not centralized but nevertheless got many people to act across the country.

It might be fun to see what the Democrats actually will do when in full control. My prediction would be nothing in the interest of people.

Im not placing that burden on you. I am saying we don’t know enough information. You said show me proof and I said that makes no sense but you are free to support your claim that we know enough to make that call. I am not arguing the point opposite yours where I hold an equal burden of proof.

It can also be seen in the massive number of people who have stepped up to inspect data, watch places that are under order not to detroy possible evidence, etc. That came from a call on Twitter. Much of what Sidney's team or Rudy's team has done deeper investigation on came from the vast number of worker ants that went out everywhere and began hunting.

@DisenchantedTruth, you just advanced to level 8!

Ted Cruz covers that in his video

There is a difference between multiple people acting independently to achieve the same goal... And multiple people acting independently to commit crimes in a manner that none of them were caught in the act.

This level thing is kind of annoying.

Yes there is, your point being?

It happens less frequently the higher you go.

If one person needs to fraud up 20,000 ballots, that would be no problem. I can coordinate that on my way to work one day.

It should be obvious... The former is possible. The latter is nearly impossible.

I think the DOI is investigating the possibility of it being an organized effort. You merely have to turn on any TV to see the consensus of news that might imply this as a factor. Social media companies acting as arbiters of truth is not a good sign.

Why is that obvious? Why is this relevant?

Well we learned that the peaceful protests were not all peaceful precisely because it was loosely organized and folks joined in and live streamed it and we were able to see that in some cases they were actually riots going on. So where's the equivalent of that if there was all this loosely organized election fraud going on. Again we're talking tens of thousands of ballots stuffed in multiple counties across multiple states from this loose organization. Odds are if that occurred we would have video and direct testimony about this from people that participated in it.

"Is this what cyber warfare looks like?" I think is the question being asked.

This isn't what a cyber war looks like bro.

Just saying

Iunno man, the whole Dominion software shit's pretty sketch.

@Corndog you start form the neutral of no fraud (like every other election) , you don’t start with mass voter fraud and demand you prove it to be false otherwise we cannot go further, we have never done that for any election. This is just Trump telling people there is fraud and just running with it.

Coming from a position of utter incompetence, I thought cyber-warfare was taking out eachothers infrastruture by means of computer sabotage?

@Recalibar without a doubt it's sketchy and archaically designed around 1776 notions of an election.

But when I think cyber war I think infrastructure getting torn apart... Like reactor meltdowns.

right

and coms

I disagree that is the neutral stance. Can you support that claim that it is normal there is not fraud in an election?

Or a system of malicious actors working to undermine the US government in tandem... like a US election. I can't back up such a claim except with what's being discussed on the table.

@Recalibar, you just advanced to level 8!

You got to leave the com up until the rest of the infrastructure is toasted.

"Big, if true."

@Recalibar That I know. That is called asymmetric warfare.

And it is certainly in effect all over the globe.

since 1776. 😄

when france payed for a certain revolution.

Preponderance of evidence standard in the court will be what counts and so the assumption will be no fraud occurred unless it's proven based on that standard.

If you want to argue State actor stuff the ballot box in states where ballots were mailed out willy-nilly, that could be another story.

You already got this Coronel talking about Iran and Choyna running ballot switching efforts through Dominion being presented before state legislatures.

See where I'm getting at?