Message from @DisenchantedTruth
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Clearly the actions of a tyrant.
Honestly I voted for him specifically to end foreign conflicts. Glad I got what I asked for.
The law of unintended consequences?
Trump out lefts the left on foreign policy.
Democrats...
I wanted the partisan court system to be balanced out which has been accomplished. Unfortunately I know of no way to “unpartisan” the courts so that was the next best thing.
My point about needing a mastermind is that to successful pull off something like this requires planning and coordination. So far, no one has been caught red-handed. Nobody has been arrested... and believe me, we would know. There would be a POTUS tweet nanoseconds after the arrest. So, to be decentralized they would all have been able to pull it off equally as well.
Now... keep in mind that a small team of operatives with extensive experience were unable to successfully break into the Watergate Hotel to remove evidence without getting caught - and the whole MAGA Nation was not alerted ahead of time that they were going to do it, where it would happen, and standing around in force waiting for it to happen. But... regular people fueled by their hatred of Trump somehow summoned their inner-ninjas and pulled it off with nobody getting caught.
And that is more likely than the possible confirmation bias that would cause people to assume malfeasance where they otherwise would never have considered.
A decentralized approach to ballot Fraud would included loosened laws and rules to identifying if voters are legal or not, making it harder for honest workers to throw out ballots they think are illegal, and removing scrutiny from 3rd parties over these processes.
You're a blind partisan if you think none of this happened.
Not only that, but it happened most in the states with the smallest margins
I think you know better than that...
The question is really at what scale?
@Corndog The Burden isnt on people to show fraud didn’t occur. I’m not sure how you got there. I just look at what’s being presented and so far amounts to nothing of significance.
Massive ballot fraud doesn't scale well.
Especially coordinated fraud at the alleged levels.
I outlined my thoughts starting here: https://discordapp.com/channels/760945067107680286/771201221145919499/784832307219136612
I disagree, I think you may be misunderstanding how a decentralized system works. Planning and coordination is not a requirement in a decentralized system. While that may take place, it is not the way you would expect to see it looking from centralized point of view, which is certainly easier to prosecute because everyone understands it without explanation. You will find these things equivalent to AI code, or the way the Apache society functioned for example.
Correct and I think that state legislatures are going to look to the court to see if they have ruled that yes indeed there was election fraud and there was enough of it to bring the popular vote into question. So far I don't think we've seen that and it gets less likely every day that passes that we will see that. So I suspect that when the electors meet in December Joe Biden will have enough electoral votes to become president. Then the question will be whether evidence will come out afterwards that's powerful enough and persuasive enough to cause the Congress to act. Again I count this as long odds from what we've seen so far. This is why the Senate races in Georgia are so important.
An example of this is the summer where all the "peaceful protests" took place. This was very loosely organized and certainly not centralized but nevertheless got many people to act across the country.
It might be fun to see what the Democrats actually will do when in full control. My prediction would be nothing in the interest of people.
Im not placing that burden on you. I am saying we don’t know enough information. You said show me proof and I said that makes no sense but you are free to support your claim that we know enough to make that call. I am not arguing the point opposite yours where I hold an equal burden of proof.
It can also be seen in the massive number of people who have stepped up to inspect data, watch places that are under order not to detroy possible evidence, etc. That came from a call on Twitter. Much of what Sidney's team or Rudy's team has done deeper investigation on came from the vast number of worker ants that went out everywhere and began hunting.
@DisenchantedTruth, you just advanced to level 8!
Ted Cruz covers that in his video
There is a difference between multiple people acting independently to achieve the same goal... And multiple people acting independently to commit crimes in a manner that none of them were caught in the act.
This level thing is kind of annoying.
Yes there is, your point being?
It happens less frequently the higher you go.
If one person needs to fraud up 20,000 ballots, that would be no problem. I can coordinate that on my way to work one day.
It should be obvious... The former is possible. The latter is nearly impossible.
I think the DOI is investigating the possibility of it being an organized effort. You merely have to turn on any TV to see the consensus of news that might imply this as a factor. Social media companies acting as arbiters of truth is not a good sign.
Why is that obvious? Why is this relevant?
Well we learned that the peaceful protests were not all peaceful precisely because it was loosely organized and folks joined in and live streamed it and we were able to see that in some cases they were actually riots going on. So where's the equivalent of that if there was all this loosely organized election fraud going on. Again we're talking tens of thousands of ballots stuffed in multiple counties across multiple states from this loose organization. Odds are if that occurred we would have video and direct testimony about this from people that participated in it.
"Is this what cyber warfare looks like?" I think is the question being asked.
This isn't what a cyber war looks like bro.
Just saying
Iunno man, the whole Dominion software shit's pretty sketch.
@Corndog you start form the neutral of no fraud (like every other election) , you don’t start with mass voter fraud and demand you prove it to be false otherwise we cannot go further, we have never done that for any election. This is just Trump telling people there is fraud and just running with it.
Coming from a position of utter incompetence, I thought cyber-warfare was taking out eachothers infrastruture by means of computer sabotage?
@Recalibar without a doubt it's sketchy and archaically designed around 1776 notions of an election.
But when I think cyber war I think infrastructure getting torn apart... Like reactor meltdowns.
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