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it is evidence, yes ... the strength of which is determined in court under cross-examination ... of course that would be done in trial and first the case must survive the pre-trial motion hearings
What I'm really curious to know, is... Does our POTUS and these hot-shot lawyers really take what they find on the 'chans, and run with it to the tune of publicly humiliating themselves while raking in tons of money?
I mean, is that really how all of this work? "The 'chans say fraud happened. Let's sue literally_everybody and make a big show of it."
Alot of info
Affidavits is just testimony they arent under actual threat of perjury. They can run the gambit from UFO abductions to internet comments to complaining to a manager at Jcpenney to eyewitness to a crime to an expert in a field. Perjury comes in when you like intentionally lie in a murder trial or something.
They haven't presented any evidence... They're doing their damnedest to not. Pretty sure they're just grifters who know they've got nothing but aggregation of other better law suits. Which means they'll never be disbarred since their claims won't be falsified in court.
yep and the guy appointed by Trump to look at all this the last 4 years was fired when his conclusions weren't the ones that Trump desired
They have put forward witnesses and experts in some of these
Yeah, and then appealed before they could have an evidentiary hearing.
Grifters gonna grift. I say, God bless.
Do you have an example when that took place?
They still said heres out experts heres their qualifications and studies and statements judge it on its merit
The only evidentiary hearing I'm aware of is the one in PA where the judge granted it along with an injunction on certification, but then a circuit judge tossed that decision.
I think AZ they had witnesses come up I saw
(or PA SC tossed it, and circuit agreed)
They appealed a temporary restraining order IN THEIR FAVOR to the 11th circut.
https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/eleventh-circuit-dismisses-sidney-powell-and-lin-woods-appeal-in-georgia-kraken-case-the-answer-is-no/
Those debates did not go the GOPs way
@meglide he has to fire the whole agency.. because Trump's campaign claims that there was Fraud .. CISA says is all rumors..
So is this a ploy to get it to SCOTUS to show evidence or is this all they have?
Scotus might pick up the PA case the other ones they are just saying take this junk to state court
Affidavits of rudeness and vote counting the want to be federal not working out
It's kinda crazy hard once its certified and finalized too they were slow as slugs
Voters can't sue until it's certified though.
Trump is busy guy, he's got Republican governors and sec of states to throw under the bus, he's got rallies to go to throw away the Senate runoff races, he's got Republican US Senators and Representatives to threaten, he's got fundraising activities such as YouTube speeches, and then there's golf
fortunately the first lady is taking care of the tennis courts https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/07/melania-trump-new-white-house-tennis-pavilion-443420
They were suing before certified though
No, The campaign, and GOP were suing.
Is there a chance here?
And if we the people wanted to sue, do we find our own lawyer and pursue that way? I’ve never pursued something like that
sue for what?
Yeah that's what I'm saying they came in late after round 1 lawyers that told Trump theres zero chance brought minor lawsuits. Then they went for the money not feasible lawsuits it seems like.
Agreed
Until certification, it's all been nonsense law suits.
Interesting
Now the voters have rights because it's been certified.
It seems like if they have solid things also they are avoiding going to law enforcement
that PA one that the Supreme Court refused to hear before the election has some sense to it
Yeah but that was challenged before the election
Act 22 was dismissed with prejudice by PA supreme court before the election, and the Supreme court finally docketed it.