People buy it it's quite pathetic.

Historically there wasn't even a popular vote in most states.

@DrSammyD if you wanted to claim Act 77 was unconstitutional you were given the chance during that 6 month window to make your case to the SCOPA.

God bless Lin Wood for rolling grenades into Georgia Republican politics.

@Corndog exactly. so couldnt they use that as a defence?

I'm taking it they rolled back?

Hahaha

@FP Robert said they were making amendments right up until 2 days before the election

... I need to remind myself to get a flip phone, my addiction to this is coming insane.

You're arguing in circles. It's not unconstitutional because It wasn't challenged, and now it can't be challenged because the law is now in effect.

So like I said. What if the time limit was 10 minutes after the bill was passed?

what does Lin Wood stand to gain if it is all lies? he will basically blow his whole reputation

@markmen who was making amendments. The law was signed by the PA Gov on about Oct-31-2019. It was set then and went into effect the next April.

@FP, you just advanced to level 2!

10 days?

@FP How are you going to demonstrate damages before the damages occur?

Sure but that would not help defende against the remedy of sending it back to the legislatures

> @DrSammyD if you wanted to claim Act 77 was unconstitutional you were given the chance during that 6 month window to make your case to the SCOPA.
@FP Why would you do that when you have a chance for the outcome you want? Keep it in your back pocket for a chance to steal if things go south.

“@FP pretty sure he said it was SOS

Also... It was a Republican led PA legislature that passed Act 77. This wasn't the Dems trying to pull one over. Prior to the pandemic, mail-in voting almost always favored Republicans.

Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective that's darn good.

sorry

COVID doesn't give authority to circumvent due process of laws and changing laws in the name of dictated personal safety. You are in charge of your personal comfort and risk.

its from the 31st of Oct https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm?yr=2019&sessInd=0&act=77

There' no such thing as bad publicity...

This is about the principle. The parties involved are irrelevant. You should not be able to have an unconstitutional law to stand merely by allowing X time to challenge it.

were the legislators involved?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-declaring-national-emergency-concerning-novel-coronavirus-disease-covid-19-outbreak/#:~:text=The%20Secretary%20of%20Health%20and,in%20response%20to%20COVID%2D19. Perhaps perhaps not

No

Calculated Trump card. PA GOP 3d chess.

@DrSammyD No, you're confused. It is presumed constitutional when passed and continues to be so unless it is successfully challenged, as are ALL laws. There was a window of 6 months open to all, regardless of injury, to challenge the law before it went into effect in April 2020. Act 77 can still be challenged now but that challenge can't affect past elections as the law was in force at the time. Any challenge to Act 77 would only affect future elections so as not to deprive the people who voted under the law of their right to vote.

@TaLoN132 publicity yes, but it would only make him look crazy

@busillis Shouldn't I have a say in how much I put my own life at risk?

Uh, people seem to respond to that kind of crazy. He knows what he's doing.

At risk?

No. You're confused. Courts consistently provide remedy to the injured when they strike down laws.

Due to you giving me COVID.

> @busillis Shouldn't I have a say in how much I put my own life at risk?
@Vegas.James Not in others'.

According to a source the cat was already out of the bag on the covid in the US in early October 2019

@Zuluzeit That depends on your caste. We will let you know if you get a say or not. 😉

I knew in early December. I'm just some dude. They knew earlier.

@busillis No, on that point I disagree. All that will mean is a different group gets to control and manipulate the information. You'd be trading anti-christian liberal thought police who dont want you to say how you really feel about gender, for anti-paranormal materialist thought police who don't want you to say what your really want to do with someone of a given gender. Remember when it was Denis Leary and Prince who were getting moderate? The change is good, we just need to finish the job. Repeal Section 230, so that you choose to (a) moderate and be accountable for how you moderate, (b) not moderate and not be responsible. That's how it was back in the day. To stay out of being liable, platform providers stayed out of the conversation. They also need to go back to, you run your own message board. If someone else doesn't like it, they can start their own. It's LibtardTube haveing the monopoly on webhosted videos that is the problem. The sad part is, it doesn't have to be this way. Simple Machines Form can be set up in 5 minutes, need to post videos like YouTube, use Wedge (a fork of Simple Machines created following a developer dispute between SMF and Nao). If everyone was thier own YouTube, their own Twitter, their own Facebook ... it wouldn't matter what Suckerbuer, Jack Dumbsh!t, or anyone else wanted to sensor.