Message from @Phil
Discord ID: 786433684534329347
@DrSammyD And it's not a right of the SCOPA it's a prerogative of the elected PA legislature to identify the court challenges should go to in the 6 month window so a resolution can be expedited.
No those cases do not have standing if they are constitutional differences. Only because there was unfair perceieved treatment within the constitution will any case have enough standing.
Because this should not be a valid method of passing unconstitutional laws.
1) Wait until you have a favorable Supreme Court
2) Exclude any other Court from ruling on it, And ensure only the Supreme Court can rule on it
3) Set a time limit of 180 days to when you can challenge it's constitutionality, and then it goes into effect
4) When nobody challenges it because you have a favorable supreme court, if later, somebody challenges it, cite that they didn't challenge it during the 180 days.
The aliens another likely culprit.
I've actually used the machine learning excuse...
@DrSammyD what you're missing is that this law was not Unconstitutional when it was passed and it has not been deemed Unconstitutional by any court.
@Corndog but historically some states didnt even have widespread voting
People buy it it's quite pathetic.
Historically there wasn't even a popular vote in most states.
@DrSammyD if you wanted to claim Act 77 was unconstitutional you were given the chance during that 6 month window to make your case to the SCOPA.
God bless Lin Wood for rolling grenades into Georgia Republican politics.
I'm taking it they rolled back?
Hahaha
@FP Robert said they were making amendments right up until 2 days before the election
... I need to remind myself to get a flip phone, my addiction to this is coming insane.
You're arguing in circles. It's not unconstitutional because It wasn't challenged, and now it can't be challenged because the law is now in effect.
So like I said. What if the time limit was 10 minutes after the bill was passed?
@markmen who was making amendments. The law was signed by the PA Gov on about Oct-31-2019. It was set then and went into effect the next April.
@FP, you just advanced to level 2!
10 days?
@FP How are you going to demonstrate damages before the damages occur?
Sure but that would not help defende against the remedy of sending it back to the legislatures
Also... It was a Republican led PA legislature that passed Act 77. This wasn't the Dems trying to pull one over. Prior to the pandemic, mail-in voting almost always favored Republicans.
Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective that's darn good.
sorry
COVID doesn't give authority to circumvent due process of laws and changing laws in the name of dictated personal safety. You are in charge of your personal comfort and risk.
its from the 31st of Oct https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm?yr=2019&sessInd=0&act=77
There' no such thing as bad publicity...
This is about the principle. The parties involved are irrelevant. You should not be able to have an unconstitutional law to stand merely by allowing X time to challenge it.
were the legislators involved?
No
Calculated Trump card. PA GOP 3d chess.
@DrSammyD No, you're confused. It is presumed constitutional when passed and continues to be so unless it is successfully challenged, as are ALL laws. There was a window of 6 months open to all, regardless of injury, to challenge the law before it went into effect in April 2020. Act 77 can still be challenged now but that challenge can't affect past elections as the law was in force at the time. Any challenge to Act 77 would only affect future elections so as not to deprive the people who voted under the law of their right to vote.