Message from @Phil

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2020-12-10 03:22:21 UTC  

@DrSammyD And it's not a right of the SCOPA it's a prerogative of the elected PA legislature to identify the court challenges should go to in the 6 month window so a resolution can be expedited.

2020-12-10 03:22:34 UTC  

No those cases do not have standing if they are constitutional differences. Only because there was unfair perceieved treatment within the constitution will any case have enough standing.

2020-12-10 03:22:59 UTC  

Because this should not be a valid method of passing unconstitutional laws.

1) Wait until you have a favorable Supreme Court
2) Exclude any other Court from ruling on it, And ensure only the Supreme Court can rule on it
3) Set a time limit of 180 days to when you can challenge it's constitutionality, and then it goes into effect
4) When nobody challenges it because you have a favorable supreme court, if later, somebody challenges it, cite that they didn't challenge it during the 180 days.

2020-12-10 03:23:02 UTC  

@busillis aliens

2020-12-10 03:23:17 UTC  

The aliens another likely culprit.

2020-12-10 03:23:31 UTC  

I've actually used the machine learning excuse...

2020-12-10 03:23:45 UTC  

@DrSammyD what you're missing is that this law was not Unconstitutional when it was passed and it has not been deemed Unconstitutional by any court.

2020-12-10 03:24:00 UTC  

@Corndog but historically some states didnt even have widespread voting

2020-12-10 03:24:12 UTC  

People buy it it's quite pathetic.

2020-12-10 03:24:28 UTC  

Historically there wasn't even a popular vote in most states.

2020-12-10 03:24:29 UTC  

@DrSammyD if you wanted to claim Act 77 was unconstitutional you were given the chance during that 6 month window to make your case to the SCOPA.

2020-12-10 03:24:38 UTC  

God bless Lin Wood for rolling grenades into Georgia Republican politics.

2020-12-10 03:24:57 UTC  

@Corndog exactly. so couldnt they use that as a defence?

2020-12-10 03:25:01 UTC  

I'm taking it they rolled back?

2020-12-10 03:25:07 UTC  

Hahaha

2020-12-10 03:25:26 UTC  

@FP Robert said they were making amendments right up until 2 days before the election

2020-12-10 03:26:25 UTC  

... I need to remind myself to get a flip phone, my addiction to this is coming insane.

2020-12-10 03:26:30 UTC  

You're arguing in circles. It's not unconstitutional because It wasn't challenged, and now it can't be challenged because the law is now in effect.

So like I said. What if the time limit was 10 minutes after the bill was passed?

2020-12-10 03:26:41 UTC  

what does Lin Wood stand to gain if it is all lies? he will basically blow his whole reputation

2020-12-10 03:26:52 UTC  

@markmen who was making amendments. The law was signed by the PA Gov on about Oct-31-2019. It was set then and went into effect the next April.

2020-12-10 03:26:53 UTC  

@FP, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-12-10 03:26:54 UTC  

10 days?

2020-12-10 03:27:00 UTC  

@FP How are you going to demonstrate damages before the damages occur?

2020-12-10 03:27:00 UTC  

Sure but that would not help defende against the remedy of sending it back to the legislatures

2020-12-10 03:27:04 UTC  

> @DrSammyD if you wanted to claim Act 77 was unconstitutional you were given the chance during that 6 month window to make your case to the SCOPA.
@FP Why would you do that when you have a chance for the outcome you want? Keep it in your back pocket for a chance to steal if things go south.

2020-12-10 03:27:39 UTC  

@FP pretty sure he said it was SOS

2020-12-10 03:27:42 UTC  

Also... It was a Republican led PA legislature that passed Act 77. This wasn't the Dems trying to pull one over. Prior to the pandemic, mail-in voting almost always favored Republicans.

2020-12-10 03:27:50 UTC  

Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective that's darn good.

2020-12-10 03:28:04 UTC  

sorry

2020-12-10 03:28:24 UTC  

COVID doesn't give authority to circumvent due process of laws and changing laws in the name of dictated personal safety. You are in charge of your personal comfort and risk.

2020-12-10 03:28:49 UTC  

There' no such thing as bad publicity...

2020-12-10 03:29:03 UTC  

This is about the principle. The parties involved are irrelevant. You should not be able to have an unconstitutional law to stand merely by allowing X time to challenge it.

2020-12-10 03:29:26 UTC  

were the legislators involved?

2020-12-10 03:29:41 UTC  

No

2020-12-10 03:29:49 UTC  

Calculated Trump card. PA GOP 3d chess.

2020-12-10 03:30:07 UTC  

@DrSammyD No, you're confused. It is presumed constitutional when passed and continues to be so unless it is successfully challenged, as are ALL laws. There was a window of 6 months open to all, regardless of injury, to challenge the law before it went into effect in April 2020. Act 77 can still be challenged now but that challenge can't affect past elections as the law was in force at the time. Any challenge to Act 77 would only affect future elections so as not to deprive the people who voted under the law of their right to vote.

2020-12-10 03:30:11 UTC  

@TaLoN132 publicity yes, but it would only make him look crazy