Hello, I know I just got here, but, this is a subject I know something about. What's confusing people is intelligence (the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.) is not the same thing as phenominal consciousness (to be able to experience the "something it is like). What they have is artificial intelligence, NOT artificial consciousness.

In reference to the conversation, it cant make decisions. It's only as "intelligent" as the programer.

Then the output would be garabage

Anyways, I thought this was the election2020 channel. Thats why I came here. What did I find a discussion about artificial intelligence?

Why did I find*

Shall, in any context I've ever seen it, legal or otherwise, is always a directive ... it essentially means "must". The only diference is, must is driven by a force to happen (if I heat the ice it must melt), where as shall is directed by command (you shall pay for the good you tak form the store)...there is no "may" in either of these.

@busillis I'm aware of the research. I was an IT technician for a little over 10 years before I quite Hewlett-Packard; and I'm the same Autumn who wrote Katja the Robot (the closest thing I could get to "artificial intelligence" -- I still think I could have gotten a lot closer if a company had taken me seriously in 2007 and given me some money)

Well, I think we all know Trump was who the actual, living, honest, and legally eledgable people voted for mostly.

The question is, can it be proven

Even if it can, can it be proven in time

And, ultimately, will the legislaters act accordingly

Ultimately, the legislaters can slate electoral college votes for Steve Courtney from Crypto Crew University if they thought it was a good idea, and the congress could approve thpose if they agreed. So, in the end, it's the legislaters who need to be convince that they should,

I'm not sure what Rudy's exact argument is. I never liked the guy from back when he tried to tell me 9/11 was caused by terrorists. But, if Donald Trump hired him, and Donald Trump said trust him, I'm only counting his as a good guy because I trust Donald J. Trump. I just wish heTrump had gotten this far in 2000 with the Reform Party when he wrote the book that got me interested in politics "The America We Deserve". As for my answer, that's based on The Constitution.

I think there are a lot of end games going on here. The election isn't the only thing going on. A lot of this looks to me like the kinds of things Cult of the Dead Cow used to talk about needing to happen to the world in the 1990's -- that "free speech"/"anti-censorship" vs. "speech curation"/"social decency" would reverse positions on the political spectrum, that criminals where intent upon hijacking which ever major political party gave them the most credibility, and when they did, an offensive, rudely awakening, truth bearer from either The Reform, The Independance, The Green, or The Libertarian Party would hijack the opposing major party....

Considering where key members of CotDC have ended up, I think this part of some kind fo culture transforming psyops.

@busillis I was among some girls who hung out with, and in some cases dated, CotDC members. I was more on the perifery, but I remember what was going on. How much did I take it seriously ... meh ... when psychics and sooth sayers said one day most of us would be supporting Republics and Christians in the future ... I was like, "yeah right, and the next Star Trek Movie is going to be about the Borg Queen invading Middle Earth, while riding a unicorn, only to be stopped by Frodo Baggin colaborating with Gowron" ... when CotDC started making detailed plans of how to bring such inversion of roles reversal about....I wrote it off as impossibly crazy and went back to EverQuest....yet...25 years later...here we are.

@busillis No, on that point I disagree. All that will mean is a different group gets to control and manipulate the information. You'd be trading anti-christian liberal thought police who dont want you to say how you really feel about gender, for anti-paranormal materialist thought police who don't want you to say what your really want to do with someone of a given gender. Remember when it was Denis Leary and Prince who were getting moderate? The change is good, we just need to finish the job. Repeal Section 230, so that you choose to (a) moderate and be accountable for how you moderate, (b) not moderate and not be responsible. That's how it was back in the day. To stay out of being liable, platform providers stayed out of the conversation. They also need to go back to, you run your own message board. If someone else doesn't like it, they can start their own. It's LibtardTube haveing the monopoly on webhosted videos that is the problem. The sad part is, it doesn't have to be this way. Simple Machines Form can be set up in 5 minutes, need to post videos like YouTube, use Wedge (a fork of Simple Machines created following a developer dispute between SMF and Nao). If everyone was thier own YouTube, their own Twitter, their own Facebook ... it wouldn't matter what Suckerbuer, Jack Dumbsh!t, or anyone else wanted to sensor.

@Phil I'm about 11 minutes behind, this is in refernece to your message to @Corndog --- what exactly is Texas trying to argue is a remedy in the suit, because I think I have an idea where they do have standing....it may surprise you, but I need to know exactly what they filed if you know the details...

@markmen I'm lagging severly (abotu 8 minutes), and the owener of thsi discord has disabled the ability to quote messages. I think we have confused each other. What was your reply in reference to?

@markmen Ok, I'm now 7 minutes behind, and i tihnk I get what your saying now. Yeah, what @busillis and i were talking about was how present day events (as I see them) resemble a psyops which a 1990's hacker group called Cult of the Dead Cow discussed on UseNet 25 years ago. And one of their members has been in federal cyber security since about the mid-Bush administration. Other key CotDC members have been moving around different parts of the deep state and both major political parties for years. When you also separate the current Republican Party into "always been GOP" vs. "used to be Reform, Libertarian, or Independant Party" things start to look very interesting. I think we are watching a psyops play out, and right now Criminals in the DNC are the targets.

@Zuluzeit (ok, I'm responding to your comment from 13 minutes ago, as I've said to the others I'm lagging) yes, that's exactly my point. The issue is people need to start lookign into how easy it is to just set up their own platform, then major social media would be surrounded by competitors, and censorship would not be an issue...however, section 230 becomes a problem because it allows one to police w/o being policed ... it's remove would return us to the original situation, one is responsible to the extent one is not involved. Thus responsibility would bear a direct relationship to accountability.

Ok @Phil , first I want to thank you for providing the link.

2nd, I'm lagging by almost 20 minutes, so my comments may seem way out of context.

3rd, if you go to page 9 of the document (pg. 15 of the .pdf), you see the verbiage "controvers[y] between two or more States" .... that's where I'm seeing the setup. Think in terms of Hobsian Contractarianism, assume there is not law, not of nature, nor God, nor human, but that which two or more contractors agree to. Now recognize, regardless your possition on the above, no moral obligations exist but those which are mutally honored by parties involved, and enforced by parties involved.

Now, here is the kicker, what was Texas original 19th Century agreement upon entering into Union with The United States?

This was talked about on the internet way back about 5 or 6 years ago, but people have forgotten. Texas, is the only state which, as part of it's original legal contract with the at the time existing states of the union, included that it already has standing approval to succeed from the Union ... I don't have the time or expertise to go all the way into detail while I'm sitting here...but I was a Texas Citizen for 16 years before I quite Hewlett-Packard and moved to Belize ... I lived walking distance form the capitol, and I used to read and talk about these things all the time....I think the argument they are slowly building up to is along the lines of "Ya'll 50 states better get ya'll 'lection shit figured out ... or you're fixin' to be 49"

@TaLoN132 You are correct, I forgot about that part.

But I don't see taht being the logical direction at this point for 5 reasons: (1) it would affect furtue elections, not this election; (2) what's to stop the DNC from hijacking 5 small texases; (3) any state can split it's electoral college votes w/o becoming more states; (4) the smaller Texases would have fewer electoral college votes anyways.

The only way I see that comming into play, would be if there were already existing factors internal to Texas which would be reason for such a split (beleive me, there are, considering one of my reasons for moving to Travis county (from Waco/Robinson) was to make my sextoys legal).

-- OR --

If this went to a contested election, in which each state get one vote...but I've seen a legal analysis done by another Attorney-With-A-YouTube-Channel which argues that could be stalled indefinitely in the house with a Nancy Pelosi Acting President which I don't think anyone in either party wants.

*(You think I'm kidding -> McLennan County threatened me with jail because someone reported that I owned "an excessive number of obscene devices [dildo], among which were some which simulated obscene activity [vibrated] by electronic means" --> I was like fuck this. Travis County was like, sex toys cool, bisexual, cool, adult oriented website operated from a server in your house, cool --> I was like, ok, moving to Austin)*

@DrSammyD Yes, taht is correct. But, another key for Texas, is that other states need congressional approval, Texas had the approval as part of the contract ... and it has not been repealed.

Just a reminder, we do have 4 smaller political parties people don't talk about much (3 if you don't count the coalition of The Independance Parties, of which Donald J. Trump was also once a member) and I've never really felt Texas was quite Red or Blue to tell Ya the truth...

@SassyCate Yeah, but that's not demonstrative. Maybe we just got a lot of newly motivated votes. So an example of demonsterative might be : https://rumble.com/vb2xn1-evidence-of-trump-votes-switched-to-biden-a-high-level-walkthrough.html

@busillis !?!?!? CCP = Chinease Communist Party

@busillis I just gave tangible evidence --- https://rumble.com/vb2xn1-evidence-of-trump-votes-switched-to-biden-a-high-level-walkthrough.html

@busillis I have more, just haven't uploaded it from my private server to my public yet

@SassyCate Tucker is NOT tangible evidence. This is where you're shoot our cause in the foot. Forensice analysis shows votes were electronically changed, and that's tangible. Tucker is an opinion about the evidence, but he is not the evidence itself. I also have the analysis done by @we_have_risen, but that's harder for a non-IT person to understand, so I generally don't post it to servers like these

@Zuluzeit people have been screeming from the roof-tops, and all the media platforms ahve beemn silencing it. Hence the conversation I had with @busillis previously.

@Zuluzeit hence the video I just posted from MidnightTreeBandit where he breaks down the JSON file download from the Edison server.

Somtimes I feel like links are posted and no one actually clicks and watches.

I get that negative votes were applied to Trump (how can existing votes be unvoted)

I get that I have records of the data trail showing where Voting servers were accessed from, data paths used, and which keys were blocked from transfering between poling places and central facilities

I get that @we_have_risen posted the data-link diagrams publically, and that UI downloaded them within 2 hours in the event twitter deleted the thread or blocked the account

I get there is secuity cam footage showing ballot being brought out and counted by GA officials after poll watchers were told to leave for the evening

I get a whole lot more than I care to type

What do you get?

The link I gave you was just one of the more easily pre-digested for laymen videos I have, and that it was already posted by someone else, because I don't want to open my private server yet....that doesn't mean its the only evidence I have...it's just something to use as an example for @SassyCate of what Tangible (an analysis in which facts support a conclusion) vs. not tangible (Tucker Carlson's opinion) is

@meglide That is a prediction about a future event which may be correct when it comes to pass, not a tangible fact which already has come to pass and been recorded as having doen so.

You are mistaken, you should do more research.

@meglide Your verbiage was "the Republicans are going to lose the Senate", what is going to happen is a run-off. I don't beleive they will loose that run-off, you apparently do beleive they will. So, unless you work for Dominion Voting Systems, you likely don't know the outcome before it happens. There for, you are making a prediction about somethign which has not happened yet.

@meglide Oh, I'm sure a politically motivate news paper which profits from headlines would claim that's what happening. None of the people I've spoken to are panicing, they don't even seem to be much concerned. Probably because they know you can't effectively boycott an election. The right is not exactly well known for havign standing xanax perscriptions. So, I find it highly unlikely they are secretly panicing without showing a sign of it.

@meglide What I honestly suspect, as it fits well with my psyops hypothesis I shared with @busillis (scroll up to my first posts, it's fairly complicated and I don't wish to retype it) is that Powell and Linwood are not working so much to get Trump elected (hence there mutual choice to leave the Gulianni and Ellis team) but as part of the larger operation to expose fraud in both parties (which pre-dated Trump's entry into politics, and goes all the way back to 9/11), and that when al is said and done, there will be a number of GOP politicians on thier chopping block as well.

@Dedkraken You're leaving otu the part where, not all states used versions fo the Dominion System taht produced a paper trail (as did GA), and those which did had the tamper seals broken for which the justification given was "paper jam".

@Dedkraken or maybe you just never knew that part in the first place because ... as I've told you....you need to do research