Message from @Darkangael

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2020-12-11 20:01:50 UTC  

@TaLoN132 explain why a voting machine would have a weighted race feature ?

2020-12-11 20:01:52 UTC  

there is no compelling evidence that they happened

2020-12-11 20:02:04 UTC  

Like Phil just mentioned weighted races are in the manual, that in my opinion is at least circumstantial evidence.

2020-12-11 20:03:17 UTC  

@meglide you would need to see the source code of the machine to say for sure. i dont expect them to display fractions on the machine

2020-12-11 20:03:20 UTC  

why wouldn't it? voting machines would be used for lots of different things, supposed you wanted share holders to vote their shares and some shares are weighted differently than others?

2020-12-11 20:03:27 UTC  

Where's the AI that will end all human error in elections

2020-12-11 20:03:41 UTC  

Technology!

2020-12-11 20:03:56 UTC  

@meglide its not marketed for that purpose

2020-12-11 20:04:06 UTC  

so what

2020-12-11 20:04:26 UTC  

@meglide and why would dominion deny this "feature"

2020-12-11 20:04:56 UTC  

@Phil and @Darkangael my car has the ability to exceed the speed limit ... is that proof that I've done so?

2020-12-11 20:05:43 UTC  

Prove that you didn't, bro. That's the test.

2020-12-11 20:05:47 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-11 20:05:50 UTC  

Jk

2020-12-11 20:06:09 UTC  

No, only proof that you could have.

2020-12-11 20:06:10 UTC  

no more innocent until proven guilty

2020-12-11 20:06:50 UTC  

i think that's a bunch of melarky anyway

2020-12-11 20:06:58 UTC  

> no more innocent until proven guilty
@nainani Totally. We should jettison that superfluous principle.

2020-12-11 20:07:09 UTC  

the point is you cant prove you didnt and i cant prove you did. normally you would have to assume your innocence. but it is not the only circumstantial element.

2020-12-11 20:07:13 UTC  

Having or Proving the Capabilities may be a Discovery Issue to examine the machines?

2020-12-11 20:07:19 UTC  

Civil cases are not held to criminal standards of proof, only to a preponderance of the evidence.

2020-12-11 20:07:19 UTC  

@Darkangael, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-11 20:07:41 UTC  

affidavits?

2020-12-11 20:08:00 UTC  

or recount the ballots manually like they did in GA? would that be sufficient?

2020-12-11 20:08:06 UTC  

Mr. Marx prefers to make laws not be subject to the laws of others.

2020-12-11 20:08:39 UTC  

speeding is a civil penalty far as I know

2020-12-11 20:09:03 UTC  

Maybe we should get a gigantic pile of belligerent zealots to claim there was no malfeasance. Maybe even a preponderance making pile of them.

2020-12-11 20:09:26 UTC  

Would need a forensic audit at this point and there are some number of votes that cannot be recounted not sure what would be the remedy for that.

2020-12-11 20:09:37 UTC  

Yes! Let's go technology!

2020-12-11 20:09:56 UTC  

you can recount the paper all you want but that is not going to reveal all the types of fraud that is being alleged.

2020-12-11 20:09:57 UTC  

Data is the truth

2020-12-11 20:10:15 UTC  

all the votes in GA have a paper copy and could be and were recounted by hand

2020-12-11 20:10:42 UTC  

> you can recount the paper all you want but that is not going to reveal all the types of fraud that is being alleged.
@Phil Sounds like the people making extraordinary claims have some extraordinary work to do.

2020-12-11 20:10:45 UTC  

Computer software can be altered to do just about anything? What does it actually prove?

2020-12-11 20:10:47 UTC  

where does the paper copy come from?

2020-12-11 20:11:04 UTC  

you alleged fractional voting due to ability of the machines to do ... what's your next allegation?

2020-12-11 20:11:11 UTC  

@Zuluzeit yeah they have a lot to proove

2020-12-11 20:11:26 UTC  

@meglide why are they my allegations?

2020-12-11 20:12:27 UTC  

I have been architecting and building database solutions for the Entertainment and Aerospace industries for more than 20 years. I work on Intellectual Property rights systems which are used to manage inordinate amounts of information tracking the financial lifetime. I have worked on Theatrical and Exhibitor management systems. I designed and implemented solutions for the Motion Picture Association to collect and analyze world-wide box office data. We are talking about systems that manage theater attendance for movies that are used to feed financial systems to calculate potential income and analyze the factors in determining a movie's potential value in subsequent weeks during an engagement. These systems are basically the equivalent of an election performed each night where patrons are voters and the tickets they buy are ballots. These systems manage sensitive financial relationship data and are used in the audited box office figures that then become the account of record for settling any outstanding issues. All of this is not to flex, it's to communicate that this is my personal area of professional expertise... and I have serious reservations about the data analysis that was done using the NYT data and other published data sets.

2020-12-11 20:12:28 UTC  

A system? Also don't system have the code of all transactions? All commands and actions that occurred? A data set that tells what was executed into that system? A LOG that's the word I'm looking for haha

2020-12-11 20:12:55 UTC  

> @Zuluzeit yeah they have a lot to proove
@Phil They have claimed they had overwhelming proof from the jump. All we've seen is dubious hearings and more elaborate claims as bandaids for the garbage ones they are locked into.