Message from @meglide

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2020-12-11 19:56:57 UTC  

where have we actually seen fractional voting as opposed to the mere allegation of fractional voting?

2020-12-11 19:58:11 UTC  

In an affidavit 'under penalty of perjury'. Lol

2020-12-11 19:58:50 UTC  

It is different... there have historically been many orders of magnitude greater degree of proof and scale with regard to voter suppression. To date, none of the allegations of voter fraud in this election have withstood scrutiny - and there has been a ton of scrutiny. We are heavy on allegation - proof is virtually non-existent. That could change, but so far... almost nothing.

2020-12-11 19:59:31 UTC  

But so many claims. So, so many.

2020-12-11 19:59:34 UTC  

Affidavits are considered evidence when under penalty of perjury.

2020-12-11 19:59:44 UTC  

"weighted race" is part of the manual

2020-12-11 19:59:44 UTC  

I think data analytics are underrated. Why don't we listen to people who actually understand software and data, which would therefore be evidence. Isn't everything traceable through the internet, through computers. Isn't there evidence of everything on earth on the internet!?

2020-12-11 19:59:44 UTC  

@Phil, you just advanced to level 12!

2020-12-11 19:59:45 UTC  

@nainani, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-12-11 19:59:56 UTC  

Fractional vote would have been exposed in recounts and risk limiting audits. They did not happen in this election.

2020-12-11 20:01:50 UTC  

@TaLoN132 explain why a voting machine would have a weighted race feature ?

2020-12-11 20:01:52 UTC  

there is no compelling evidence that they happened

2020-12-11 20:02:04 UTC  

Like Phil just mentioned weighted races are in the manual, that in my opinion is at least circumstantial evidence.

2020-12-11 20:03:17 UTC  

@meglide you would need to see the source code of the machine to say for sure. i dont expect them to display fractions on the machine

2020-12-11 20:03:20 UTC  

why wouldn't it? voting machines would be used for lots of different things, supposed you wanted share holders to vote their shares and some shares are weighted differently than others?

2020-12-11 20:03:27 UTC  

Where's the AI that will end all human error in elections

2020-12-11 20:03:41 UTC  

Technology!

2020-12-11 20:03:56 UTC  

@meglide its not marketed for that purpose

2020-12-11 20:04:06 UTC  

so what

2020-12-11 20:04:26 UTC  

@meglide and why would dominion deny this "feature"

2020-12-11 20:04:56 UTC  

@Phil and @Darkangael my car has the ability to exceed the speed limit ... is that proof that I've done so?

2020-12-11 20:05:43 UTC  

Prove that you didn't, bro. That's the test.

2020-12-11 20:05:47 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-11 20:05:50 UTC  

Jk

2020-12-11 20:06:09 UTC  

No, only proof that you could have.

2020-12-11 20:06:10 UTC  

no more innocent until proven guilty

2020-12-11 20:06:50 UTC  

i think that's a bunch of melarky anyway

2020-12-11 20:06:58 UTC  

> no more innocent until proven guilty
@nainani Totally. We should jettison that superfluous principle.

2020-12-11 20:07:09 UTC  

the point is you cant prove you didnt and i cant prove you did. normally you would have to assume your innocence. but it is not the only circumstantial element.

2020-12-11 20:07:13 UTC  

Having or Proving the Capabilities may be a Discovery Issue to examine the machines?

2020-12-11 20:07:19 UTC  

Civil cases are not held to criminal standards of proof, only to a preponderance of the evidence.

2020-12-11 20:07:19 UTC  

@Darkangael, you just advanced to level 4!

2020-12-11 20:07:41 UTC  

affidavits?

2020-12-11 20:08:00 UTC  

or recount the ballots manually like they did in GA? would that be sufficient?

2020-12-11 20:08:06 UTC  

Mr. Marx prefers to make laws not be subject to the laws of others.

2020-12-11 20:08:39 UTC  

speeding is a civil penalty far as I know

2020-12-11 20:09:03 UTC  

Maybe we should get a gigantic pile of belligerent zealots to claim there was no malfeasance. Maybe even a preponderance making pile of them.

2020-12-11 20:09:26 UTC  

Would need a forensic audit at this point and there are some number of votes that cannot be recounted not sure what would be the remedy for that.

2020-12-11 20:09:37 UTC  

Yes! Let's go technology!

2020-12-11 20:09:56 UTC  

you can recount the paper all you want but that is not going to reveal all the types of fraud that is being alleged.

2020-12-11 20:09:57 UTC  

Data is the truth