Message from @Saxson

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2020-12-13 20:18:34 UTC  

I do

2020-12-13 20:18:38 UTC  

There you go.

2020-12-13 20:18:58 UTC  

Yeah, keyboard would be closer to human speed for sure.

2020-12-13 20:19:07 UTC  

We setup a system such that state legislatures can setup how voters choose electors and then they cannot change those rules after the fact without the aide of a special session which they do not have this leaving electors to the voters. They tried to argue the state Congress should have the power to overturn voters electors in court based on their greviences with the supposed irregular vote and the Trump appointed judge did not agree. The administration of the election by the rules created by the legislature were sufficiently followed and they shouldn't be allowed to set aside the popular vote for political reasons.

2020-12-13 20:19:13 UTC  

Tortoise warp 9, engage.

2020-12-13 20:19:19 UTC  

Hahaha

2020-12-13 20:19:55 UTC  

The utterance is not what makes it illegal. It's the Panic you cause if it not on Fire and a Lie. If no one hears the utterance in an empty Theater, you cause no Panic.

2020-12-13 20:20:48 UTC  

Also yes, I'm pretty sure you are exempt if it's true.

2020-12-13 20:20:53 UTC  

Not sure, but pretty sure.

2020-12-13 20:20:55 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-13 20:21:02 UTC  

I'm not saying theres zero argument for state congress having absolute authority to ignore the will of the people. But clearly the furthest right judicial members are not agreeing these arguments are solidly founded in law.

2020-12-13 20:21:06 UTC  

Same goes for defamation/libel.

2020-12-13 20:21:11 UTC  

A Prime example of Nuance....

2020-12-13 20:21:23 UTC  

It's the like, pen ultimate defense.

2020-12-13 20:21:33 UTC  

Unless you called the wrong operator and they're having a really bad day.

2020-12-13 20:21:34 UTC  

Well.... that was just an example the court used.

Not ALL speech is protected by the Constitution. While it is interpreted broadly there are lots of utterances that are not protected.

2020-12-13 20:21:37 UTC  

I tried handling nuance. It didn't take.

2020-12-13 20:22:41 UTC  

So basically its not that the utterance (word or phrase) is ILLEGAL.... its whether or not it is protected by the first Amendment.

2020-12-13 20:22:41 UTC  

Don't take the Example as Absolute. There are Nuances in Law.

2020-12-13 20:23:19 UTC  

Well yes, I'm pretty sure everyone knows there are exceptions to the first amendment.

2020-12-13 20:23:41 UTC  
2020-12-13 20:23:43 UTC  

Page 1 of 48 for a trial. Should I press A to accept that I've read it.

Who ...tf reads a star wars xbox video game user agreement?

How are these not one sentence? We are going to collect your data, and you're going to like it.

2020-12-13 20:23:44 UTC  

It's the Panic you caused by a Lie or Deception.

2020-12-13 20:24:18 UTC  

Causing a panic that gets a bunch of people hurt can be charged as "disorderly conduct" or something like that... so its the act not the word that is illegal.

But some might try to say well the First Amendment protects me because I can say whatever I want.

2020-12-13 20:24:39 UTC  

Actually no.... even lies can be protected speech by the 1st Amendment

2020-12-13 20:24:46 UTC  

My point being context is 👑

2020-12-13 20:25:05 UTC  

Exactly, and you can't use Free Speech as a Defense.

2020-12-13 20:25:52 UTC  

Pretty sure it's a far more serious charge than disorderly conduct.

2020-12-13 20:26:01 UTC  

It is actually very commonly excepted that the free speech protection in the First Amendment can protect lies.... Just watch Tucker Carlson or Hannity

2020-12-13 20:26:05 UTC  

hehe

2020-12-13 20:26:08 UTC  

Your honor. I said give me the money to the clerk to exercise my first amendment right! I wasn't trying to rob the bank!!

2020-12-13 20:26:31 UTC  

If your Lie causes Damages it's not Protected.

2020-12-13 20:26:57 UTC  

Obviously, I am just being funny about Tucker Carlson.... but it is absolutely true that Lies can be protected Speech

2020-12-13 20:27:00 UTC  

Unless your name is Jussie Smollette (sp?)

2020-12-13 20:27:17 UTC  

Just an example of what the charges would look like.

2020-12-13 20:27:25 UTC  

It can very well be a fairly serious felony.

2020-12-13 20:27:35 UTC  

Depending on how it ends up playing out.

2020-12-13 20:27:45 UTC  
2020-12-13 20:27:46 UTC  

White Lie (Pun intended).

2020-12-13 20:28:39 UTC  

Whaaaaaaaa!?!?!?!