Message from @Dedkraken
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And I think it spawned the phrase 'Jacksonian democracy'
Jackson was fucking nuts.
But that's beside the point lmao
Love the guy. He was hilarious. Same birthday as me. True story.
He was nuts.
Lol correct
Pew pew jackson?
Pew Pew Jackson, yes.
LOL.... I think I missed a joke. @SoonMrWick you were saying that you can yell "fire" in a empty theater, right?
I just thought there might have been a ruling that broadened the type of Speech protected by the 1st Amendment.
My bad.
Yes. If it's on Fire...
I added it as a second post and I type slowly. So you may have read the first line and went off to the races.
Emphasis on EMPTY.
I feel you. I too am a slow typist.
@William Dinan If the state legislatures pick Trump electors they can not be sued in state court
Now
Mine is compounded by slow thinking as well, though.
Don't you type on your phone Zulu?
I do
There you go.
Yeah, keyboard would be closer to human speed for sure.
We setup a system such that state legislatures can setup how voters choose electors and then they cannot change those rules after the fact without the aide of a special session which they do not have this leaving electors to the voters. They tried to argue the state Congress should have the power to overturn voters electors in court based on their greviences with the supposed irregular vote and the Trump appointed judge did not agree. The administration of the election by the rules created by the legislature were sufficiently followed and they shouldn't be allowed to set aside the popular vote for political reasons.
Tortoise warp 9, engage.
Hahaha
The utterance is not what makes it illegal. It's the Panic you cause if it not on Fire and a Lie. If no one hears the utterance in an empty Theater, you cause no Panic.
Also yes, I'm pretty sure you are exempt if it's true.
Not sure, but pretty sure.
Lol
I'm not saying theres zero argument for state congress having absolute authority to ignore the will of the people. But clearly the furthest right judicial members are not agreeing these arguments are solidly founded in law.
Same goes for defamation/libel.
A Prime example of Nuance....
It's the like, pen ultimate defense.
Unless you called the wrong operator and they're having a really bad day.
Well.... that was just an example the court used.
Not ALL speech is protected by the Constitution. While it is interpreted broadly there are lots of utterances that are not protected.
I tried handling nuance. It didn't take.
So basically its not that the utterance (word or phrase) is ILLEGAL.... its whether or not it is protected by the first Amendment.
Don't take the Example as Absolute. There are Nuances in Law.
Well yes, I'm pretty sure everyone knows there are exceptions to the first amendment.
Page 1 of 48 for a trial. Should I press A to accept that I've read it.
Who ...tf reads a star wars xbox video game user agreement?
How are these not one sentence? We are going to collect your data, and you're going to like it.
It's the Panic you caused by a Lie or Deception.
Causing a panic that gets a bunch of people hurt can be charged as "disorderly conduct" or something like that... so its the act not the word that is illegal.
But some might try to say well the First Amendment protects me because I can say whatever I want.