Message from @Philip R
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@Philip R, you just advanced to level 7!
Is there any clarification about the super odd claims they hacked a GA voting machine
What? No, not how it works. If it's trial by jury, it's judgment by jury.
Hence why it's called trial by jury.
Wrong! I determine if they are guilty or not guilty.
Also interested in this!
> Is there any clarification about the super odd claims they hacked a GA voting machine
@Dedkraken Robbed a bank to show it's possible under unnaturally contrived circumstances, I reckon.
He explained it poorly in technical and layman’s terms
Juries are allowed to produce unlawful outcomes in America.
Not sure what you mean by judgement by jury. Juries in Texas also sentence. Not so in federal and most other states.
Okay, I did say "probably". As for "trial by jury", that doesn't mean that the jury handles the entire process; the judge is the one that passes sentence, at least.
> He explained it poorly in technical and layman’s terms
@Dedkraken That's what charlatans *do*. I don't understand your confusion. It seems very plain.
Well, except perhaps for Texas!
He's saying judges can overrule juries, Greg.
umm i claim the chewbacca defense!
Hahaha Chewbacca defense.
no
State-specific, but rulings are handled by juries, not judges, in trial by jury.
They can overrule a jury and find someone not guilty. They cannot overrule a jury and find someone guilty.
Is Trump Chewbacca
From https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/criminal-sentencing-faq.html: "Judges, not juries, almost always determine the punishment, even following jury trials. In fact, a common jury instruction warns jurors not to consider the question of punishment when deciding a defendant's guilt or innocence."
The courts must be biased if they don’t let the wookie win
Also in Texas, the defendant can choose judge or jury for sentencing.
No one doesn't like wookies.
Emperors maybe.
But not in Texas!
That would be why it said "almost always".
That’s not what the Chewbacca defense is? Shame on you South Park
You're pivoting to sentencing when we were talking about verdict.
They're related.
In fact, when I Googled "do juries pass sentence ", one of the options that came up was "do juries pass sentence in Texas"!
I don't think anyone would dispute that Texas is 'special'.
Verdict != sentencing.
GOD BLESS TEXAS!
Amen
I said that trial by jury doesn't mean that the jury does everything; judges still pass sentence. And therefore "trial by jury" doesn't *necessarily* mean that juries convict as opposed to just determining guilt or otherwise.
Ok, but that wasn't my argument.
your Honer i am sorry but that codom is much to large for me. "if the glove does not fit you must acquit" so "i did not have sexual relations with that woman" = chewbacca!
Also being convicted is the determination of guilt.
LOL!!!
Hence why it's "being convicted and sentenced"