Np spread the word too many outlets suppressing the truth.

@Whithers medical advances does not account for the increase in life expectancy and mortality

Libertarian viewpoint is have the government only do what it absolutely has to do ... and thus smaller is better because the more the government does the more it is likely to violate or infringe your rights

@RobertGrulerEsq I hope you have a good few days (sort of off) and a good weekend. Looking forward to Monday. Keep your chin up.

Thanks @Maw I appreciate that. Today was a long one for a lot of reasons. Appreciate all the support. I'm off for the evening, everyone thanks again and have a wonderful night!

I too am going to go relax for a bit before bed. I will still be available to moderate for a few hours if something comes up, so hit me up and I'll take care of it if I'm awake.

@Phil The defeat within a generation of typhus, cholera, distemper, rickets, gonorrhea, syphilis, mumps, measles, chickenpox, legionaires, yellow fever, malaria, tuberculosis, polio, etc. accounts for a vast amount of that change.

@Whithers its not due to medical advances though.

@RobertGrulerEsq and @Maw you both have a good night

Likewise unto all you fine folks.

You too @meglide

Have a great seminar... Stay safe.

@meglide I am aware of the Libertarian point of view. I consider it shortsighted based on my study of history, humanity, ethics, politics, and religion. It has valid critiques, but is no less devastating an ideology than Marxism in that it would never work.

@Phil Incorrect, 😉

for those of you can't sleep ... I'll be doing a little probability and statistics here on those duplicate ballots in AZ ... probably put me to sleep also

worked for a good while here in the USA

i watch steve1989mreinfo to go to sleep

nice hiss

Well, get you a 2 gallon coffee percolator and make you a batch of BRCC CAF blend and you will be set for a weekend at least.

@meglide You mean back when Trusts used to murder people in their homes in order to get them out of the way and take their property?

Trusts?

Yes, Trusts. What today we would call mega corporations.

@meglide Maybe you mean when your employment contract included company housing, limited you to the company store, and if your family exceeded your allotted income the company would arrest you and put you in their private debtor's prison until you had worked off whatever your family was continuing to charge to survive.

Trusts is what brought us the Federal Reserve, eventually fiat currency and fractional reserve banking, and ever expanding federal government encroaching into our lives ... so no Trusts are not Libertarian

It is only a little over a century ago back when Max Weber was all the rage for management theory.

@Whithers the biggest predictors of life expectancy are education (in the west and USA) and in the developing world having access to a toilet, clean water and sanitation.

The biggest predictors of life expectancy are genetics, active lifestyles, and diet - especially where diet includes hard water.

active lifestyle and diet go along with education

not causal mind you

After that it is the elimination of bads from the environment/market. @ImNotGas

just generally wealthier people can afford to worry about such things

Then education has nothing to do with what today are educators.

he said predictor he did not say cause

predictor=correlation not causation

Separating diseases into various categories s invalid.

how so?

right @Doc I'm trying to keep my heart healthy so I can live long enough to die from cancer

heart disease and diabetes is largely controllable regardless of your environment

when we apply for research grants we have to come up with a new trendy research idea, but in fact if we were given money to install toilets on the street we would probably have more impact. nobody wants to fund that type of research study

typhus and malaria are not