Message from @TIDE
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Exactly
But democracy doesn't have to necessarily mean direct referendums on things.
Actual Democracy got us here. The voter roles get larger and larger and accept everybody. We're being voted out of existence
Whenever I hear a leftist talk about "muh democracy" I just chuckle at this point
Representative democracy is what I usually said
Lol people cant even define democracy.
I didn't see a difference between that and "constitutional republic"
The problem here is more with universal franchise I think
In a big way, it had to get bigger @Ian . The average voter gets a small say, but the upper classes have the means and the ability to have a larger say.
Always found it semantic
Yes but it got too big. people who own nothing will vote for anything
Is a democracy anything that's democratic?
If the average person didn't have a say at all, most governments would collapse from revolutions.
And I'm no elitist. I come from poverty.
I have transcended being triggered and have reached peak zen when it comes to leftists haha
The founding fathers knew this would happen. they wrote about it
I just see this big, valuable word that should be ours to shape the definition of.
One that is thoroughly rooted in the American psyche.
@Danimal876 On that I can agree 100%
I'll just posit into this discussion that controlling public opinion is far more important than any system of governance nowadays.
Rather it's a system of governance on its own
It's always been that way. If you want to keep your head at least.
I cant wait for the National Conference 😃
That's a hard call, @TIDE , though you might be right
Although the controllers are having to run at full steam right now to try and stop people like us, and it seems like we keep breaking through because the truth is on our side
Oh brother.
Lol California is a meme state.
@Josh M. -OH Yep.
@Josh M. -OH No kidding. It's legal to knowingly infect somebody with HIV but illegal to serve plastic straws. Homeless have overrun LA in all areas except where the ultra-rich live.
@Josh M. -OH It's against California law (per the AG) to report illegal workers to ICE.
@Josh M. -OH And I don't get minority benefits for being white despite being a minority.
If balkinization ever happens it'll start with California. They're so far out there.
Completely detached from reality and the rest of the country.
@Josh M. -OH There are more Republicans numerically in CA than any other state.
@Josh M. -OH We've been verrun.
*overrun
California is 40% white
@Josh M. -OH And to make matters worse it's white republicans who bring them in for cheap wages on their farms
@Josh M. -OH I know this from personal experience.
@Josh M. -OH It seems realistic that CA may vote to leave our economic sphere and join Mexico unless the US can assert its power to revoke citizenship without causing a revolt. Right now it seems more likely that Northern Mexico will become an administrative zone under the USA though but who knows what the next 40 years holds.