when did you start wanting kids?

was it a sudden thing or was it gradual?

Pretty recently actually, I was just around kids way more often and I realized how much I enjoyed it

Also for the time being, I like being around people's younger siblings so its nice to experience that since I never really had a younger sibling I was close with and its very fulfilling

oh that makes sense

Yeah, boys like between like 8-12 are the funniest too because they just want to rough house constantly, its all just very wholesome

@Logan that is odd, my sister has state employee insurance and her birthing cost $6k!

I don't think she took an ambulance or had a C-section (things that would hike cost)

this girl I know who is normally fairly liberal (nothing crazy, but like center left) told me yesterday "everyone wants kids"

I was actually kinda surprised

like isn't that pretty offensive to say these days? lol

They do in my experience, even the most degenerate people I know say they want kids one day, even if they say "eventually" I haven't met too many people that are adamant about no kids

Hospitals are extremely expense even without "extras" @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

My ambulance ride was non-emergency after the birth, just standard discharge procedure from the birth center because my blood pressure was slightly elevated. We paid less than $300 for the ride and the monitoring at the hospital.

I didn't want kids until my thirties but then I got major baby cravings

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN we had tricare at the time. I think it is better than most providers for having babies.

Birth centers and home births are always going to be cheaper because those facilities don't have the overhead costs of hospitals. I've read of people with no insurance at all paying 3k for a home birth, prenatal midwifery included.

woah, how much would a hospital birth cost?!

What exactly is the advantage of giving birth at a hospital opposed to an at home birth barring the child being choked by the umbilical cord/emergency situation

High risk moms must give birth in hospital by law (specifics vary by state). This includes conditions like gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, multiparity (twins+). If you want an epidural you must be in a hospital.

Birth center or at home means a totally drug free birth

I just checked my bank account and I'm actually doing surprisingly well with my spending this month

I only spent $817 in the past 30 days and that includes rent, utilities, food, and my trip to Montana

@missliterallywho that is a good tip, thank you. Any lady that can stand me enough to reproduce would probably be somewhat innawoods anyway. So I will remember about birth centers

Gotta have that helicopter ambulance insurance then

yes

I think it's different, rescue vs rural emergency

Those things are spendy to keep in the air. One rescue piolet I know said it's like $400 just in fuel

@Nemets you got taken away by a helicopter?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/30/poll-trump-will-lose-43-of-his-support-if-wall-isnt-built/

Only 43%?!

@missliterallywho ooooor, my own floatplane. 😎

Yeah I am probably going to shill for Gabbard. So that the coming anti-white regime is at least not getting into as many foreign wars. @Fred X - NJ

Only time I've seen someone get taken away by helicopter was an Indie car race I was at a few months ago, guy flew right into the fence

it will be good cover for some people at work who suspect me of wrongthink

Fewer foreign wars = more available tax dollars for government sponsored programs under a leftist regime! 🎉🎊🎈

Hoping Trump pulls through though

@Fred X - NJ >thinking they won't do foreign wars *and* tax and spend programs

We should just start preparing for an IE shelter in case they ever regain power because we will need somewhere to stay once they tax all of our income.

Well the one thing GOP is good for is kvetching about taxes.

I said they're good at kvetching about it, not managing it. <:usinnoodle:420778112226164736>