Message from @Sam Anderson

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2019-02-05 07:11:27 UTC  

My grandma was actually a teenager / young adult during World War II so I've heard some personal accounts

2019-02-05 07:13:51 UTC  

@Jacob Oh here is the Soviet consensus during the holodomor btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/542241431734059010/main-qimg-5903a1fe791b4167f4dafbfbdfaa4d9d.png

2019-02-05 07:19:41 UTC  

dude

2019-02-05 07:19:54 UTC  

literally no one is denying that people died during that period

2019-02-05 07:20:02 UTC  

What does that mean?

2019-02-05 07:20:09 UTC  

it means nothing lmao

2019-02-05 07:20:20 UTC  

just that people died during the Holodomor

2019-02-05 07:20:24 UTC  

which literally no one here is denying

2019-02-05 07:20:41 UTC  

@ophiuchus Is Norwegian easier?

2019-02-05 07:21:21 UTC  

@Jacob so I am assuming that the Soviets are the left side of the graph?

2019-02-05 07:22:20 UTC  

the graph doesn't say which side is what

2019-02-05 07:22:56 UTC  

wait aren't the two sides on these pyramids usually representative of gender?

2019-02-05 07:23:11 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-05 07:23:14 UTC  

That's what I thought ^^

2019-02-05 07:23:51 UTC  

Also look at my new based and Nyanpilled pfp y'all 🤠

2019-02-05 07:23:57 UTC  

Okay so wamen on the left?

2019-02-05 07:24:11 UTC  

sorry right

2019-02-05 07:24:14 UTC  

its late here

2019-02-05 07:24:18 UTC  

I think so

2019-02-05 07:24:35 UTC  

wait couldn't this entire graph be explained by World War II?

2019-02-05 07:25:25 UTC  

Yeah this seems to explain very little

2019-02-05 07:25:32 UTC  

other than what we already know

2019-02-05 07:26:26 UTC  

You see a serious dip around late 30s to early 40s which explains combat deaths

2019-02-05 07:26:36 UTC  

It's the Ukrainian Soviet consensus, it translates "Sexual - age pyramid of the population of Ukraine in 1959"

2019-02-05 07:26:46 UTC  

Thank you

2019-02-05 07:26:48 UTC  

14 years after the war

2019-02-05 07:27:06 UTC  

And then a solid boom around the early 20s explaining the Soviet equivalent of the baby boomers

2019-02-05 07:28:16 UTC  

ya

2019-02-05 07:28:20 UTC  

I'm not sure what this really adds

2019-02-05 07:28:23 UTC  

The pyramid shape means that there were high birth rates, bit short life expectancy (where the child mortalities could be explained) and slow growth rates

2019-02-05 07:28:55 UTC  

the life expectancy was like 30 in the Russian Empire

2019-02-05 07:29:03 UTC  

this is actually a pretty big improvement

2019-02-05 07:31:06 UTC  

@Jacob That's usually skewed by the infant mortality rate. In Ancient Rome, people who survived past the age of 10 would live to 60 or so.

2019-02-05 07:32:40 UTC  

that's a good point

2019-02-05 07:32:48 UTC  

infant mortality rates were extremely high back then

2019-02-05 07:33:33 UTC  
2019-02-05 07:34:45 UTC  

It should also be noted that this is a great example of a, "youth bulge." Youth bulges happen specifically when there is extreme political instability, or catastrophic events.

Youth bulges happen primarily during great deaths such as the depression, Arab spring events, or recessions.
Something worth noting is the question of why the USSR didn't just move the Ukrainians to a different location, had they know their food supply was running dry.

2019-02-05 07:35:34 UTC  

well

2019-02-05 07:35:49 UTC  

because then you'd have a massive influx of people in the other location

2019-02-05 07:36:03 UTC  

which would take up the food supply

2019-02-05 07:36:40 UTC  

Why not just lend food from neighboring States? Seems easier