Message from @DeusVolk
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wait we'd have to restrict immigration to make UBI work?
wtf I love UBI now
Yeah itd be impossible to have that many gibs without restrictions on immigration
Wouldn't UBI cost around $1 Trillion each year, since it gives $1K each month to everyone over 18. Even if it replaced welfare, that's still an extra $700-$800 billion we'd be spending.
Yeah thats the lefty argument against it. At the end of the day it would end up decreasing welfare for the actual poor people.
UBI is seriously retarded
basically they took a strawman of socialism and made it real
conservatives always flip out about social programs because "it's giving away free money for no reason", which isn't necessarily true, but in this case it's *actually* true
It is not plausible until automation takes place to a crazy extent, ideally I would not have automation take control like that, but with the way political systems are in the US I do not know if that would happen.
People that act like automation is going to suddenly replace half the jobs in 20 years or something are brainlets.
Maybe eventually but keep it mind that the industrial revolution brought tractors and later combine harvesters that replaced the work on 20 field hands and did it faster, among other examples but it wasn't as if everyone was suddenly unemployed.
Stone toss based and red pilled once more
@nord while I see your point, I think that AI could in many ways replace the need for humans at all. While the industrial revolution was mostly just about making labor more efficient. AI could replace the need all together.
We're actually talking about UBI and automation in my economics class
@Sam Anderson A lot of businesses could be automated, yet aren't. A lot of our work could be done autonomously.
Why haven't the jobs that can already be automated done so already?
Also this might be kind of an obvious point but, the argument that we need UBI because "gee all the jobs will get automated lol" Isn't valid until the jobs are actually all automated.
Takes time lmao.
Would you rather be ahead of it or have hundreds of thousands of angry workers who can't be retrained? If not millions?
I want UBI for all gamers
Literally I'll believe it when I see it. I simply can not imagine automation suddenly displacing a significant amount of the workforce.
UBI and automation would be devastating to the human psyche
It seems like a very lazy argument made by people that have not actually given detailed thought to what sectors of the market could be automated and how quickly. They just say "BRO DID YOU SEE HOW SMART COMPUTERS ARE YOU WONT HAVE A JOB NEXT YEAR"
Where is the substance? I wan't some papers or something. And books by lazy socialists don't count.
It sounds even easier to just deflect.
I unironically believe the minute UBI starts is when globalists will set off whatever depopulation of the goyim they've been planning. Probably a virus.
Why is there not a steady decline in work force participation if that is true? If automation is really taking off increasingly It should be reflected but it's been relatively flat since 2015.
Automate E-girls. The THOT audit goes to the next level
Universal Gamer Income
My policy would be 1-4-40
A free awoo~ maga girl to every white family
A man should be able support at least a family of four by working 40 hours per week at anything other than an entry level job
What would you determine to be an entry level job?
Automation affects different sectors of work differently. The technology is also still being tested/implemented. It's really a matter of time before it's more than feasible to replace entire industries of workers. It also creates jobs for those who can code/repair these systems, so it probably depends on who's replacing whom: mostly middle aged, high school educated whites being replaced by STEM subcons.
not starbucks barrista or other things that are usually just high school summer job stuff
it would depend on whats going on in the particular year
enough to raise a family and still have some disposable income too