Message from @missliterallywho
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Breeding people. Christianity is beside the point
@Asatru Artist - MD Agreed.
yeah, but the "marriage" part was def a middle finger to the religious specifically.
Marriage hasn't been Christian for a long time
in modern terms, it is seen that way.
And as a (married) pagan, I realize marriage isn't just Christian. 😉
I need to be more read and have good arguments against gay marriage before I try to convince people against it, though. So many people today say "If it doesn't hurt me, let them be", but they realize the effects it has.
I was of that same mindset, until I started seeing how destructive it has become to push other degeneracy (sorry Mrs Logan!).
Marriage without the possibility of children isn't marriage. Gay marriage destroys the very concept.
Infertility isn't the same thing. Could still adopt and have a mom and a dad.
*Mfw African delegates are saving my church from allowing gay marriage*
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Bc marriage isn’t about love
Why do I get a sweaty person
its about legal protection and choice
in practical terms i mean
Choice 🤔
its about furthering your political career
@missliterallywho Choice meaning if something happens to your significant other, *you* can choose what happens.
Not the govt or their family.
@VinceChaos @Lawrence of Eurabia v tru. Love is what comes out of similar ambitions and proximity. It isn't the main purpose.
If you are doing it right it will happen by itself.
I didn't get married simply for legal reasons, btw. :-p
I'm just talking from a practical standpoint in current year.
"Doc, I don't love my woofe any moore."
"Maybe she's a blue-pilled nerd. Fire her."
My philosophy professor just referred to the MSM as maliciously ignorant.
I’m thriving
@Asatru Artist - MD right, but just cos people do get married for legal reasons, or companionship reasons, doesn't mean that's the purpose/definition of marriage historically. As in all of human history until now (Christianity being rather recent)
yeah
Morality being divided from long term survival and instead fastened to arbitrary post enlightment ideals is the root problem imo.
Pursuit of happiness as a right -> GAY
Even "civil unions" only became necessary, as people at the time saw it, because some companies were refusing to extend insurance and other benefits to, ahem, partners, and rather than taking the voluntarist route, and simply seeking out companies that would do business with them , they felt it necessary to flex and compel EVERYONE by ushering in the concept (of civil unions).
Gotta have a default state religion or no religion, for all these complicated social ties to mean anything to everyone
Idk how to say that more eloquently at the moment
(Disclaimer I myself have no established religion)
I don't like any religious laws being pushed because it will (and already has) allowed certain religions to use it against us.
2 Abrahamic religions come to mind specifically...
@missliterallywho Technically, that was pretty much a given from the Treaty of Westphalia to the American Revolution (a state religion in every principality, and later, nation-state). Wouldn't work for us at this point, but there was definitely some merit to it.
(don't worry Christians, I'm not throwing shade at you)
I have lot of thoughts on this since getting into medieval history recently but I don't want to get into tedious religious territory so I'll stop here.
If you aren’t a Mithraic Mystic what are you even doing
@Bjorn - MD agree
@Bjorn - MD Yeah, I'm talking current year in a country that is (most likely) too far gone.
Why does my church use Vimeo? Not opposed to it but just an interesting observation. They use it for uploading sermons and now livestreaming this national conference.