Message from @Perihelion - CA

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2019-02-28 15:35:29 UTC  

Hopefully this gets struck down by the courts.

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2019-02-28 15:42:14 UTC  

Good morning fellow non tinfoil non-autistic handcraft artists

2019-02-28 16:04:33 UTC  

Makin' some assumptions there, buddy... 😏

2019-02-28 16:17:40 UTC  

@Hakujin - CA "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors," It's constitutional.

2019-02-28 16:22:09 UTC  

May appoint a number of electors.

2019-02-28 16:22:30 UTC  

It DOES NOT grant the state permission to dictate how they vote

2019-02-28 16:23:03 UTC  

It grants the state permission to appoint the electors as they see fit.

2019-02-28 16:25:38 UTC  

Almost all states allow the winner of the popular vote to select the delegates so I'm not sure how this is different in practice

2019-02-28 16:26:06 UTC  

Popular vote of their state.

2019-02-28 16:26:27 UTC  

The people in their state how they voted

2019-02-28 16:27:30 UTC  

This law, however, tells them they must vote according to how the national vote tallies. In essence, disregarding how the people they represent vote

2019-02-28 16:29:20 UTC  

So now the voting public in California and New York will be determining how Colorado’s electoral votes will be cast, instead of the voting public of Colorado

2019-02-28 16:29:49 UTC  

This should be an easy one to strike down.

2019-02-28 16:32:04 UTC  

I'm afraid it sounds constitutional. They could totally ignore the vote if they wanted

2019-02-28 16:32:26 UTC  

basically the legislature can stack the Electoral College in any way they wish

2019-02-28 16:45:08 UTC  

@DixieBoy76 - KY Wow,didn't know that,that is awesome to hear! 400yrs!

2019-02-28 16:52:52 UTC  

@Perihelion - CA it’s not Constitutional for a state to dictate how their residents vote.

2019-02-28 16:55:01 UTC  

Maybe I'm missing something here but it's been at upheld by the Supreme Court that the state legislature can select the Electoral College without consulting the people

2019-02-28 16:55:27 UTC  

Yes, that is selecting the electors

2019-02-28 16:55:39 UTC  

Which is constitutional

2019-02-28 16:55:56 UTC  

Right and the electors will vote 99% of the time as instructed

2019-02-28 16:56:14 UTC  

Telling them HOW to vote, disregarding the electorate for who they represent, is not Constitutional

2019-02-28 16:56:42 UTC  

That is voting according to their OWN states’ electorate

2019-02-28 16:57:09 UTC  

The electoral college doesnt represent the electorate

2019-02-28 16:57:13 UTC  

It just is whatver the legislature decides

2019-02-28 16:57:30 UTC  

Which for almost all states is selected by state popular vote

2019-02-28 16:57:33 UTC  

Yes they do. They vote according to their states electorate

2019-02-28 16:58:01 UTC  

No they are not compelled to follow any popular vote

2019-02-28 16:58:10 UTC  

See gore vs bush

2019-02-28 16:58:13 UTC  

Yes. Popular vote in Texas determines who the electoral members of Texas vote

2019-02-28 16:58:26 UTC  

Thats how texas legislature decided it

2019-02-28 16:58:34 UTC  

Its not a constitutional matter

2019-02-28 16:58:53 UTC  

Popular vote in Florida determines who the electoral members of Florida vote

2019-02-28 16:59:09 UTC  

Nope

2019-02-28 16:59:14 UTC  

Gore vs Bush

2019-02-28 16:59:28 UTC  

Legislature just overruled popular vote

2019-02-28 16:59:31 UTC  

Same as in every state, though some have eased that to allow them to vote individually based on which district they represent

2019-02-28 16:59:57 UTC  

But they are STILL voting according to the people they represent

2019-02-28 17:00:25 UTC  

you're describing the convention but that's not in the Constitution itself

2019-02-28 17:00:46 UTC  

The state legislature gets to select Electoral College in any way it wishes it just so happens that most States dictate that the selection is tied to the vote

2019-02-28 17:00:56 UTC  

New CO law is telling them to completely disregard the entire state of CO, and vote according to how the rest of the country votes