Fiat currency is very good. Far superior. Limits are very good because they strengthen society. Churches are very useful also.

It is very good that we have Corporations separate from individuals. They make society prosper because they limit the liability. And offer more rights. This is great.

@LokiV Thanks for the extra details. It would be very interesting to me to sharpen which policy adjustments that a GOP-shifting-toward-Libertarian party could make to attract Left-Libertarians/Centrists without alienating the majority of the traditional Conservative base.

My major concern is that this point is already where we are at, and tactics to win elections have eclipsed the policies that seek to actually improve the commonwealth.

> My major concern is that this point is already where we are at, and tactics to win elections have eclipsed the policies that seek to actually improve the commonwealth.
@drenath

I could suggest two books, one by a UK investigative journalist, one from a Canadian Psychologist, that both conclude Western societies value the arrogant, driven traits of psychopaths as government or corporate leaders, to such a warped extent, some of those are more extreme and dangerous mental illness models than the average psychopath found in prisons or long term locked wards as too crazy to stand trial, too dangerous to release.

And that reflects on the populace and electorate.

I think I already understood that the qualities needed to win elections varies wildly from qualities that I'd like to see in my representatives.

> I think I already understood that the qualities needed to win elections varies wildly from qualities that I'd like to see in my representatives.
@drenath

I can honestly claim over the years that I have blocked, helped pass, or reshaped, law or regulation at all levels from local Councils or Boards, through a few international treaties. It's a lot of work, in windows of opportunities, for small snippets of major needed changes.

But most monkeys with car keys do closer to zero of that. I've been at public meetings with large protests, and seen officials ask where people were 3 months or 2 years prior, when they solicited public input or comment, and went into newspapers, libraries, and community groups seeking it, with little response. So as office or position rises in larger branches of government, their message changes to send money to help elect us, and tries to skip details.

I would agree that the public at large is mostly clueless and/or disenfranchised with regard to how a citizen should interact with the political system, outside of the voting booth.

I would be very interested to know of the history of some of those accomplishments and your role in them. But I understand this is the internet and you might prefer to remain anonymous 🙂

> Fiat currency is very good. Far superior. Limits are very good because they strengthen society. Churches are very useful also.
@Yussuki ₪
Note Zino that I'm speaking in the context of US Federal and State inerwoven legal systems.

Legislative fiat is not the same as fiat currency, albeit most "money" now has shifted to digital account records as if currency moves.

While I might agree that some churches can be important community resources, many do things that are illegal in various respects, or abusive to members or communities. Is there any reason those should be above the larger rule of law, or outside it due to broken law and court renderings?

I find your comments on corporations very sloppy. It's a rather complex topic in the USA, and another of those with every state causing minor variants under primary authority, and Feds stepping in over limited issues. We're discussing when or how corporations as quasi-government actors can trample rights. Private persons, not legal fictions or government licensees, are the ones who have rights to be protected.

I think Zino is bored and likes to drop comments across the server to spur conversation 😄

> I would be very interested to know of the history of some of those accomplishments and your role in them. But I understand this is the internet and you might prefer to remain anonymous 🙂
@drenath

The conservative fields of telecom and public utility regulation don't merge perfectly in everyone's views with defending traditional nude beaches, speech and privacy rights, eliminating tax frauds starting with the IRS, RTKBA (interesting having lunch with PETA Senior Counsel at an ACLU Board meeting, and his carbon emissions plastic stuff), or using what I know from having been a C-Corp or 501(c)3 Board member or CEO, to attack abuses inherent in related systems? Or helping bankrupt WorldCom over its frauds, working with an offshoot group to one founded by Angela Davis, where believe it or not, her projects don't attract a lot of people who can analyze prison pay phone scams by telecoms and states?

If you can find a link to and transcript of Eric Idle likening Heidi Fleiss' call girl rates to Congress-driven FCC indecency fines in song in formal FCC Proceedings archives, or laying out why the Wildmons of American Family Association and their members and conspirators should get felony convictions for their fraudulent 18 USC 1001 certified broadcast speech content complaints, those are my formal legal documents. And make the longest posts Discord allows look tiny. I've also been a corporate whistle blower, and unlike emo-babies, only filed valid complaints, with every one resulting in a business shut down and beneficial owners banned from an industry for life. (That's drawn me some death threats....)

Or are cross-border international RF signal protection engineering criteria, or conditions for electric utilities to place major new power grid and changing logical inversion badly done state regulatory law, more exciting? On a more positive side, anyone who's watched TV or listened to music has unavoidably used tech whose standards I helped develop.

> telecom and public utility regulation
@LokiV

Screenshot saved :)

Is the majority of your career in regulation? Sounds like a path in life that many have not considered 🙂

> @LokiV
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> Is the majority of your career in regulation? Sounds like a path in life that many have not considered 🙂
@drenath

Nah. I became a dissident against bad government systems back in kindergarten, though it took a few years to be able to articulate why and how what I was subjected to was in fact not legal.

I learned a fair amount about regulatory law because I had to for projects that either paid some bills, or really needed someone to take them on. I focused on regulation aspects of civil rights and economic personal concerns, because that's a major part of government systems, and too few activists get a serious clue. (and procedural and structural systems are fairly similar across agencies....)

Ha! What did you recognize as illegal in Kindergarten? That's what I call an early start.

Thanks for the convo by the way. I'm headed to dream-land shortly.

> Ha! What did you recognize as illegal in Kindergarten? That's what I call an early start.
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> Thanks for the convo by the way. I'm headed to dream-land shortly.
@drenath

Failure to provide an "appropriate educational opportunity", for students who need at least part of their resources to be what's generally assumed relevant a few grade levels higher. Teachers are more used to waivers for special ed kids who really should never be graduated in ways that perpetrate frauds on potential employers, or systems that harass teachers who fail kids who score 9/100 on tests but have political mandates for social promotion of them. And teachers for young kids are usually selected for low pay and social management, not diverse intellectual backgrounds.

At least my parents had the resources to get me into an academics oriented (not religious) private school younger than most cover, and then a prep school with full university style science labs, including a planetarium, premed biochem, etc. And optional programs to do independent research as an early teen, which my father compared to his Doctoral thesis.

My sister is an educator and she basically says every student is an outlier 🙂 Not a job I envy!

Thanks again for the chat, have a good night 🙂

Two of my nieces are teachers, as are some ex-GF's, and various friends. The temperament, communication styles, and other demands are pretty hard to meet in any single human, even if stripped of the public politics.

One niece right out of Stanford went into a Teach America assignment, and brought a perpetually deficient class up to standards in 6 months, while also starting her Masters. That's not the usual job applicant for those districts, however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfbXLJUHVtE&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3jrlQpCumLWKMdfOU8MdRgv6uCHsxgx31Ml0GlUzcooxRZlZ7kuHAtf8I

Fox News claiming victim status!!

That's a cunning fox🦊

I don't trust it

You @drenath ?

One look at r/thedonald on reddit and you can see how rampant this victim mentality is.

I like victims

I think news networks have long ago realized political theater drives ratings better than journalism proper.

Of course they have

I hate @kaizen

I'm also surprised reddit hasn't nuked that sub

I hate reddit

You @drenath ?

@pete say something

are you a bit @Homeschool dropout

Or being honest?

@Homeschool dropout what's your deal?

@drenath it was banned in june

https://youtu.be/CmVXyJY5Eis

What arent you convinced about with marxism???

Thoughts?

Over reaction