What is impossible about market socialism

to replace global capitalism

to develop parts of the world where people are starving

we can desalinate water and grow crops hydropinically

its just cost prohibitive

@srijan-205 ?

science was historically racist

there was time when we didnt know about evolution or genetics

tribes were savges

and they measured skulls

im just saying these are the fundamental roots

science is most of how its been applied is racist instituion

its deeply tied with capitalism

its an orginal sin yes

not unremoveable

but IDK how you can ignore it

scientists built atom bomb

that allows USA to rule the world

etc

allowed europe the tech to imperialize

yes I dont hate science

but I think it has serious problems

it has sinful roots

I think it can be fixed

you guys yourself say science is in error

> Even if US taxes fund "racism", it's not the choice of taxpayers
@Smoke

They tax payers need to vote for people who understand US imperialism

And be politically active to make it happen

Like voting bernard sanders

Or equivalent

You should pay taxes now so you can vote later

Its not black/white stuff

Its like strategic

I was just answering them

From up in chat

What arent you convinced about with marxism???

@Yussuki ₪ i agree wjth you

Totally abt technology

But my fear is because of class differences

The upper class gets technology first

and can use it for their goals first

In ever-widening gap

Even with food production and the rest

How long until they genetically engineer and modify themselves

I think we need redistribution of resources so the tech is actually fairly distributed and usable when we do get it

Its not worth technological development that end up killing us like nukes

Or ai-designed molecules or diseases

Etc

Every tech wonder is equally destructive

Then it seems to me socialism is the actual important thing to bring about

To make sure the tech is distributed

Lol

What do you think billionaires get

already

Let alone in few decades

@Alexander131720 i dont think we need to worry abt natural

As far im concerned capitalism is natural

Sry my thing died

I was saying

The next economic system will be as natural as capitalism

And as natural as feudalism and tribes before that were

Its based on the technology of the era

How well integrated and vast an empire / state can be run

Today its already global capitalism

You cant run british global empire with paper and boats

with computers now we can

I am a market socialist

I think something like that makes sense

We can keep markets generally

Keep global setup

And just regulate where we clearly need

Genetic science and pollution etc

We already have plenty of govt regulation

Market socialism places regulations and human welfare above profit

While mainting competition and markets

there doesnt need to be less govt regulation

its a big crux issue IMO

but as far as I understand it everything good we have comes from govt regulation

the entire society and legal structure and economy is based off regulation that everyone in the nation agrees to

its all normalized

its the whole point

the freedom is carved out of chaos of darwinian natural world

through government and regulation

AND technology

pangburn hit us with the heat

👍

@Yussuki ₪ have you heard of hedonistic imperative

if you are into genetic engineering and philisophy and whatnot

maybe be up ur alley

or anyone elses here

https://www.hedweb.com/

just a website

alot of interesting philisophy and futurism stuff

I think its all really well grounded in reality

but is very very interesting and forward thinking

@ThePangburn Have you heard of hedonistic imperative or david pearce

He'd be great to have an event with

imperative as in the biological drive

its refercencing the hedonic treadmill

The imperative being to use genetics to reqire ourselves