that’s way too old

you shouldn’t be spanked in middle school

Parents should discipline their children using their feelings

*feelings*

If you don’t punish your kids with spanking as a child then they grow up to be libtards or softies. Every hard worker I know grew up being spanked or worse when growing up

it shouldn’t be an option unless the kid won’t learn

He who spares his rod hates his son,
But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.

Proverbs 13:24

It has also been more commonly said as “Spare the rod spoil the child”

But the second one is only a derivative

Now unless you are some heretic, that is a message from God and therefore makes all counter arguments null and void.

no violates muh nap, bruh

spanking is not an argument

Children should be spanked as a punishment if they do something really bad, the extent to which this is needed depends on the child because some children don't really do that many wrongdoings.

This is not necessarily effective.

I think spanking shows a weakness in character from the parent if they aren't capable of instilling reason into the child with rational arguments

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Well it's not about spanking per se, but the parents need to find an effective punishment for wrongdoings. Children aren't rational, they're kids.

Spanking, and physical punishment works best

Do they even learn WHY an action is wrong in the first place then?

Depends on the kid

All they know is the punishment

Yes, so they wont do it

Bullshit.

And as they get older, they start thinking

Koninos, you obviously have no experience with raising a child

Of course, you explain the rules and why something is wrong. If they break the rules, you must show there is consequences.

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If you just say "I said don't do it" they wont care

They are little, they don't get it

Children will try your boundaries

That's just how they are

Yeah.. that's gonna be fun when my son gets to that age lol

Consequences shouldn't be spanking and all these king of shit. Many recent studies have shown that the children who are getting constantly spanked by their parents, not even don't have a good childhood, but also repeat the same mistakes, and if not, they live in terror, inside their own home.

Muh studies

Okay

Limitations is the best kind of consequences.

I don't care what some faggot says, i will follow the traditional way of raising a child, and not some new generation bullshit

The children don't need constant spanking if they teach them consequences of breaking rules at an early age. They will stop breaking rules, and that's the point of punishment.

Leading by example won't work?