My white trash relatives in Iowa come to our house sometimes, they drink all our shit make a mess and they beat their kids, those kids are fucking scared of their parents and shit

I’ve never seen a normal family spank their child

at least in today’s times

define spanking

Children should be flogged

I think if raised properly, it's rarely needed. If you are spanking them all the time, there's a problem. So yes, in moderation.

is spanking like beating the shit out of the kid or slapping the kid in the face 5 times to learn that they did something wrong?

because i prefer the latter and reject the former

I think spanking above the age of 6 is pretty trashy to do

Because 6 and under is enough

but if it’s necessary sometimes

Wrong

6 is when it should start

Under that and they are generally too young

Certainly over a certain age it's not needed unless you are a shit parent

Should end arpund 9-11ish

that’s way too old

you shouldn’t be spanked in middle school

Parents should discipline their children using their feelings

*feelings*

If you don’t punish your kids with spanking as a child then they grow up to be libtards or softies. Every hard worker I know grew up being spanked or worse when growing up

it shouldn’t be an option unless the kid won’t learn

He who spares his rod hates his son,
But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.

Proverbs 13:24

It has also been more commonly said as “Spare the rod spoil the child”

But the second one is only a derivative

Now unless you are some heretic, that is a message from God and therefore makes all counter arguments null and void.

no violates muh nap, bruh

spanking is not an argument

Children should be spanked as a punishment if they do something really bad, the extent to which this is needed depends on the child because some children don't really do that many wrongdoings.

This is not necessarily effective.

I think spanking shows a weakness in character from the parent if they aren't capable of instilling reason into the child with rational arguments

^

Well it's not about spanking per se, but the parents need to find an effective punishment for wrongdoings. Children aren't rational, they're kids.

Spanking, and physical punishment works best

Do they even learn WHY an action is wrong in the first place then?

Depends on the kid

All they know is the punishment

Yes, so they wont do it

Bullshit.