Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic

Discord ID: 509497067849383947


2018-11-06 18:18:53 UTC  

We cannot define left and right solely based on a view of power and its distribution and that powers relation to economics. Economics rightfully deserves its own axis. If Im understanding what you are essentialyl saying is that marxism is the left while capitalism is the right, or rather who has power and the economics that go with this power. This creates a horribly skewed and brutally mobile axis and its brutally open ot interpretation.

THe better axis is based like what Draco said. Alternatively we could add a Z axis to get even more accurate but ramming two axes into one makes it just simply innacurate and pointlessly loose in its interpretation.

2018-11-06 19:18:38 UTC  

Political agency cannot be separated from economics

2018-11-06 19:18:53 UTC  

Your bourgeois apologetics are not founded on material analysis

2018-11-06 19:34:30 UTC  

Is there anything that you do not get out of Marx's ass?

2018-11-06 19:35:04 UTC  

No. It’s copy past communism

2018-11-06 19:43:11 UTC  

Lol, the word "leftist" originated before Marx. According to Marxists, they can just hand waive all those millions of leftists for not being true leftists.
It is like Christians calling Saint Peter as not Christian.
We should create a new Marxism and call all these Marxists fakers.

2018-11-06 19:43:30 UTC  

I hereby decree that Marxism means "2 girls 1 cup".

2018-11-06 20:27:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/509463935578275883/image0.png

2018-11-06 20:30:00 UTC  

Cope in this channel by bourgeois apologists

2018-11-06 20:30:39 UTC  

(((Proletariat)))

2018-11-06 21:18:48 UTC  

The word leftist was symbolic to those who opposed the hegemon which included largely of democratic socialists

2018-11-06 21:18:58 UTC  

Keep coping

2018-11-06 21:19:51 UTC  

And comparing it to calling saint peter not Christian makes no sense

2018-11-06 21:20:59 UTC  

You're trying to posit that an actual system of analysis is as incredulous as someone being a direct anathema to their religion

2018-11-06 21:21:28 UTC  

Haha non monarchist leftist 😎

2018-11-06 21:28:47 UTC  

(((Marx)))

2018-11-06 22:25:45 UTC  

yes

2018-11-06 22:25:50 UTC  

supreme juden

2018-11-06 22:37:49 UTC  

The funny thing about this is if you make liberals leftists, you then make mutualists far left, when they are the biggest centrists if I have ever seen a centrist. This is absolutely nonsensical, and liberal in the sense you're using it put social democracy as further left. Which is still a capitalist system. I've drawn a diagram on this let me get it

2018-11-06 22:39:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/509497000438530048/20180802_082741.png

2018-11-06 22:39:26 UTC  

The blue is liberals and conservatives

2018-11-06 22:39:33 UTC  

Yellow is social Democracy

2018-11-06 22:39:37 UTC  

Black is mutualism

2018-11-06 22:39:43 UTC  

Red is about where I am

2018-11-06 22:41:28 UTC  

what youre saying is that youre a god damn commie

2018-11-06 22:41:43 UTC  

No, I'm a monarchist

2018-11-06 22:54:42 UTC  

You've been typing a long type @grilomoto

2018-11-06 22:55:04 UTC  

i type slow

2018-11-06 22:56:15 UTC  

also, i'm answering something someone said yesterday...

2018-11-06 22:58:59 UTC  

so don't worry about it...

2018-11-06 23:05:45 UTC  
2018-11-06 23:09:29 UTC  

@Swiss Cheese yesterday you said that Bolsonaro confiscated anti-fascist stuff from universities... well, no he didn't, he hasn't got into office yet, and he wasn't even elected when that happened... that material was removed because it was considered political propaganda, and that's illegal during election period on public colleges (even, though is hardly ever enforced... and maybe that's one of the reasons why people freaked out, because for once they were forced to follow the law). The reason why "pro-democracy" and "anti-fascist" material (posters, banners, etc) were considered political propaganda was because the same material was, at the same time, characterizing a candidate (Bolsonaro) as anti-democratic and a fascist...

2018-11-07 00:21:15 UTC  

@Enigmatic★Chromatic The black circle is usually where most fascists I see score

2018-11-07 00:21:29 UTC  

Fascistball scores in that exact area

2018-11-07 00:21:34 UTC  

The tests for the compass always suck

2018-11-07 00:22:33 UTC  

I use it as a visual aid, not because the compass is necessarily great or that the tests are accurate in anyway

2018-11-07 00:22:43 UTC  

But it helps people pick up what I'm putting down

2018-11-07 01:51:16 UTC  

Can't believe Pocahontas got reelected

2018-11-07 06:33:19 UTC  

It seems like the dems won collectively... (in the congress)

2018-11-07 06:34:35 UTC  

Female won in NY, really nice though

2018-11-07 12:05:53 UTC  

Senate is more important than the house IMO