Message from @PebbЛe
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Externally shows the value of labor is a tangible and empirical concept
The social relations of production inherently has contradictions but collective bargaining allows those contradictions of interest to show class conflict
Liberals are Leftists.
No dialectical lies are gonna' change that😂
We cannot define left and right solely based on a view of power and its distribution and that powers relation to economics. Economics rightfully deserves its own axis. If Im understanding what you are essentialyl saying is that marxism is the left while capitalism is the right, or rather who has power and the economics that go with this power. This creates a horribly skewed and brutally mobile axis and its brutally open ot interpretation.
THe better axis is based like what Draco said. Alternatively we could add a Z axis to get even more accurate but ramming two axes into one makes it just simply innacurate and pointlessly loose in its interpretation.
Political agency cannot be separated from economics
Your bourgeois apologetics are not founded on material analysis
Is there anything that you do not get out of Marx's ass?
No. It’s copy past communism
Lol, the word "leftist" originated before Marx. According to Marxists, they can just hand waive all those millions of leftists for not being true leftists.
It is like Christians calling Saint Peter as not Christian.
We should create a new Marxism and call all these Marxists fakers.
I hereby decree that Marxism means "2 girls 1 cup".
Cope in this channel by bourgeois apologists
(((Proletariat)))
The word leftist was symbolic to those who opposed the hegemon which included largely of democratic socialists
Keep coping
And comparing it to calling saint peter not Christian makes no sense
You're trying to posit that an actual system of analysis is as incredulous as someone being a direct anathema to their religion
Haha non monarchist leftist 😎
(((Marx)))
supreme juden
The funny thing about this is if you make liberals leftists, you then make mutualists far left, when they are the biggest centrists if I have ever seen a centrist. This is absolutely nonsensical, and liberal in the sense you're using it put social democracy as further left. Which is still a capitalist system. I've drawn a diagram on this let me get it
The blue is liberals and conservatives
Yellow is social Democracy
Black is mutualism
Red is about where I am
what youre saying is that youre a god damn commie
No, I'm a monarchist
You've been typing a long type @grilomoto
i type slow
also, i'm answering something someone said yesterday...
so don't worry about it...
Lol @Deleted User
@Swiss Cheese yesterday you said that Bolsonaro confiscated anti-fascist stuff from universities... well, no he didn't, he hasn't got into office yet, and he wasn't even elected when that happened... that material was removed because it was considered political propaganda, and that's illegal during election period on public colleges (even, though is hardly ever enforced... and maybe that's one of the reasons why people freaked out, because for once they were forced to follow the law). The reason why "pro-democracy" and "anti-fascist" material (posters, banners, etc) were considered political propaganda was because the same material was, at the same time, characterizing a candidate (Bolsonaro) as anti-democratic and a fascist...
@Enigmatic★Chromatic The black circle is usually where most fascists I see score
Fascistball scores in that exact area
The tests for the compass always suck
I use it as a visual aid, not because the compass is necessarily great or that the tests are accurate in anyway
But it helps people pick up what I'm putting down